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Post by pete130 on Jan 24, 2022 2:55:26 GMT -5
Hey all. I've got pretty much everything for my 94cc Testa build in the mail. Doing it on the stock cases (bugeye) to keep it pure Zuma, a personal idealist goal of trying to avoid a block swap. Looking to using a 33mm PWK. Usually it's way cheaper to get a genuine Keihin off a used bike, if you can figure out what bike came with which carb. 28mm Keihin PWKs are on a lot of the 85cc bikes. I believe Malossi uses a 28mm VHST with the rc1 kit, but I'd like something bigger. But what I'm seeing is carb sizes jumping way up to 36-38 even on 125s. It's possible I need to look at quads. Does anybody know if there's a 2t bike or quad that came OE with a Keihin 33-34 PWK? Heck, even a 30, I'm not sure they made/make one though. 32-34mm is ideal. Thanks! I know what your saying, i to have a full 94cc but in rc-one case with some small case work, kit came with 28mm but I think what yo small, I want to go 36mm or 34mm at least, I will be using mukini and putting liwer jet kit onto it, I already have lmr race inlets up to 40mm carb. And I plan to run 350cc banchee vforse 4 reeds, so I think I definitely need 34mm min. I left 28mm on to run in, and now im about to dyno 36mm, will let you know how it goes, but I think at least 32mm |
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Post by pete130 on Jan 24, 2022 2:56:12 GMT -5
Aprilia RS125, Honda NSR125, Cagiva Mito and all other cagiva 125cc models. Yamaha RD350, Suzuki RG250. Have a look at the Jolly moto 125cc line up and theres a whole list of small 2t bikes which have carbs in the 30-35mm size range. Yes the rs125cc fly with a 35mm tmx mukini race carb |
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Post by pete130 on Jan 24, 2022 2:56:59 GMT -5
I have not seen them on scoots, but I hadn't foreseen a problem until you mentioned it. What kind of problems has Brent had? I have no idea what SSS is up to with Smart Carbs other than they're newer and even easier to tune. But they're also $$$. I don't know what the margins are, maybe it's a better deal for the shop to sell. Maybe supply chain. Who knows. I wouldn't have even considered a Lectron except the sale. But I've been thinking I might just go with a 28mm PWK to start, and see what I think. It's a reasonable, inexpensive baseline and generally smaller is easier to tune. So. I can get a 33 if I feel like I'm missing something higher in the powerband down the road. I have the malossi 28mm for sale just used to run bike In if your intrested |
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Post by fly on Jan 24, 2022 4:11:53 GMT -5
I have not seen them on scoots, but I hadn't foreseen a problem until you mentioned it. What kind of problems has Brent had? I have no idea what SSS is up to with Smart Carbs other than they're newer and even easier to tune. But they're also $$$. I don't know what the margins are, maybe it's a better deal for the shop to sell. Maybe supply chain. Who knows. I wouldn't have even considered a Lectron except the sale. But I've been thinking I might just go with a 28mm PWK to start, and see what I think. It's a reasonable, inexpensive baseline and generally smaller is easier to tune. So. I can get a 33 if I feel like I'm missing something higher in the powerband down the road. I have the malossi 28mm for sale just used to run bike In if your intrested I appreciate that, thanks. Already have a 28mm Keihin in hand, though! You're running a much bigger intake system than I am. I'm running a kx85 vforce3 reed valve. 33-34 is I think the top of where'll I'll wind up with the Malossi pipe and stock porting. Really curious to see what your dyno results will be. Btw, do you happen to know what the final drive ratio in the RC-One kit is? |
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Post by 190mech on Jan 24, 2022 5:23:53 GMT -5
Will the 94 crank fit in the Yamaha cases?I did a 103 build some years back for a friend and had to cut down the crank wheels OD to safely get it in the cases without making them too thin..I have seen the use of a spacer that is fitted between the cases after they were cut to gain some more meat in the sealing area..
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Post by fly on Jan 24, 2022 16:08:25 GMT -5
Will the 94 crank fit in the Yamaha cases?I did a 103 build some years back for a friend and had to cut down the crank wheels OD to safely get it in the cases without making them too thin..I have seen the use of a spacer that is fitted between the cases after they were cut to gain some more meat in the sealing area.. Yeah, it'll fit! At least the 5317927 crank will, I'm not sure if the RC-One associated 44/90 crank is the same part. The crank webs on the Malossi crank are actually a bit smaller than the 2Fast 44/90 crank, which I had been considering. I have seen cranks that come with a spacer for that reason, but I don't think I'll need one. For sure the mating surfaces at the bottom are getting on the skinny side, but I have a plan for that! But I want to measure my crankcase volume to make sure it's still matched well to the cylinder before I conduct that operation. |
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Post by pete130 on Apr 3, 2022 11:15:20 GMT -5
Hey all. I've got pretty much everything for my 94cc Testa build in the mail. Doing it on the stock cases (bugeye) to keep it pure Zuma, a personal idealist goal of trying to avoid a block swap. Looking to using a 33mm PWK. Usually it's way cheaper to get a genuine Keihin off a used bike, if you can figure out what bike came with which carb. 28mm Keihin PWKs are on a lot of the 85cc bikes. I believe Malossi uses a 28mm VHST with the rc1 kit, but I'd like something bigger. But what I'm seeing is carb sizes jumping way up to 36-38 even on 125s. It's possible I need to look at quads. Does anybody know if there's a 2t bike or quad that came OE with a Keihin 33-34 PWK? Heck, even a 30, I'm not sure they made/make one though. 32-34mm is ideal. Thanks! Mukini make great carbs any size all flat slide are pwk style, not that expencive, they make a 35mm tmx full race carb. Matches 125cc or around that or anything that can use it, I have one on my rc-one 94cc |
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Post by fly on Apr 3, 2022 19:23:45 GMT -5
I've read good things about the TMX. But a 35 meant for a race 125 is probably bigger than I want to go, at least for now. easier to tune a small(er) carb, at any rate, for the break-in period.
If I'm happy with 28mm I might just be a smart carb (28mm) guinea pig after the PWK. Or do a 33 if I want more. But running a little higher gear ratio than the RC-One, so I'll likely want to keep my low and mid-range optimal.
I can go back up to about 11:1, but I need to find 05 gears to work with the 14/42s with the 3rd support I intend to run. Then I'd want more carb, I think.
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Post by pete130 on Jun 8, 2023 23:45:29 GMT -5
I've read good things about the TMX. But a 35 meant for a race 125 is probably bigger than I want to go, at least for now. easier to tune a small(er) carb, at any rate, for the break-in period. If I'm happy with 28mm I might just be a smart carb (28mm) guinea pig after the PWK. Or do a 33 if I want more. But running a little higher gear ratio than the RC-One, so I'll likely want to keep my low and mid-range optimal. I can go back up to about 11:1, but I need to find 05 gears to work with the 14/42s with the 3rd support I intend to run. Then I'd want more carb, I think. Sorry been a while since really looking at posts, I did try the 35mm tmx and yes to big from what I've read and after ridding once a 32mm would be just right with the vforce 3 reeds your useing, I have a cnc spacer plate that lest me run up to banchee reeds, but ive now got to the lmr 115cc I ended up getting them to race prep a set of new cases for me, something they don't normally. Unless you buy the full race motor. Anyway hope it all worked out for you, im guessing you have been riding for a while buy now, I can ride till Nov so I have till then to finish build only been 2 years lol |
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Post by Lucass2T on Jun 9, 2023 4:01:04 GMT -5
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Post by pete130 on Jun 9, 2023 4:18:13 GMT -5
Yes even moving up to 30mm would be good, I run a 30mm power jet on my aerox 132cc and it works very well, im trying to deside what carb to use, I have been looking at the sc2 but I just can't justify the price and have a 35mm tmx they are a race carb for 125cc and the 38mm tmx is 250cc so im thinking the 35mm with a power jet, the motor comes with a 36mm dellorto if you buy full motor, so im thinking the 35mm with power jet should be more than enough, like to here how if runs with the 30mm |
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Post by pete130 on Jun 27, 2023 23:30:08 GMT -5
Hey all. I've got pretty much everything for my 94cc Testa build in the mail. Doing it on the stock cases (bugeye) to keep it pure Zuma, a personal idealist goal of trying to avoid a block swap. Looking to using a 33mm PWK. Usually it's way cheaper to get a genuine Keihin off a used bike, if you can figure out what bike came with which carb. 28mm Keihin PWKs are on a lot of the 85cc bikes. I believe Malossi uses a 28mm VHST with the rc1 kit, but I'd like something bigger. But what I'm seeing is carb sizes jumping way up to 36-38 even on 125s. It's possible I need to look at quads. Does anybody know if there's a 2t bike or quad that came OE with a Keihin 33-34 PWK? Heck, even a 30, I'm not sure they made/make one though. 32-34mm is ideal. Thanks! I've ran the 94cc rc-one with a tmx 35mm to big I think a 32mm tm would work best mukini, the 35mm tmx was made for race 125cc the 38mm tmx is made for a 250cc race motor so 32mm is about perfect for a 94cc the malossi is a good motor but there are better options once you go to flange motor, im running a 36mm r/t on a aerox 86cc but it has 2fast 86cc pipe and a lot of port and case work |
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Post by Lucass2T on Jun 28, 2023 2:52:52 GMT -5
Hey all. I've got pretty much everything for my 94cc Testa build in the mail. Doing it on the stock cases (bugeye) to keep it pure Zuma, a personal idealist goal of trying to avoid a block swap. Looking to using a 33mm PWK. Usually it's way cheaper to get a genuine Keihin off a used bike, if you can figure out what bike came with which carb. 28mm Keihin PWKs are on a lot of the 85cc bikes. I believe Malossi uses a 28mm VHST with the rc1 kit, but I'd like something bigger. But what I'm seeing is carb sizes jumping way up to 36-38 even on 125s. It's possible I need to look at quads. Does anybody know if there's a 2t bike or quad that came OE with a Keihin 33-34 PWK? Heck, even a 30, I'm not sure they made/make one though. 32-34mm is ideal. Thanks! im running a 36mm r/t on a aerox 86cc but it has 2fast 86cc pipe and a lot of port and case work We want pics!😁 |
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Post by pete130 on Jun 28, 2023 3:24:11 GMT -5
im running a 36mm r/t on a aerox 86cc but it has 2fast 86cc pipe and a lot of port and case work We want pics!😁 I did post a few in what did you do to your bike today as I changed fuel peacock lol |
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Post by RyanWiltshire on Jun 28, 2023 11:38:05 GMT -5
I did post a few in what did you do to your bike today as I changed fuel peacock lol where did you get them panels from? |
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