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Post by cryslr on May 27, 2023 21:27:35 GMT -5
Does my vino have a rev limiter on the cdi?
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Post by oldgeek on May 27, 2023 23:07:33 GMT -5
Not on the CDI. There may be a sleeve on the variator bushing though. Zino will know for sure. |
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Post by bigmatthew86 on May 28, 2023 11:18:53 GMT -5
There is a sleeve in the variator & a restriction in the head pipe if they haven’t been removed.
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Post by Zino on May 28, 2023 12:33:15 GMT -5
No rev limiter on the vino 2 stroke cdi
Your rpms are being held down by the restrictive pipe .
The port Timing of the stock bore also put a cap on rpms .
When you upgrade the pipe and bore you can spin onthe stock cdi beyond 10k rpms
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Post by cryslr on May 28, 2023 14:04:52 GMT -5
Hey Zino, my vino is much like yours, malossi bbk, malossi wild loin, stock varitor, 6 gram , malossi belt, fly clutch, white pulley spring, tried yellow, green clutch springs, tried white and yellow. stock carb. Goes 49-50 BUT, doesn't hit hard until 30 mph. You think a multi-varitor would help get some take off speed?
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Post by aeroxbud on May 28, 2023 14:12:11 GMT -5
Hey Zino, my vino is much like yours, malossi bbk, malossi wild loin, stock varitor, 6 gram , malossi belt, fly clutch, white pulley spring, tried yellow, green clutch springs, tried white and yellow. stock carb. Goes 49-50 BUT, doesn't hit hard until 30 mph. You think a multi-varitor would help get some take off speed? Have you tried lighter rollers? It sounds like you are only getting into the Power band when the variator is maxed out. Which could mean the weights are too heavy. |
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Post by Zino on May 28, 2023 15:39:26 GMT -5
My Vino will wheelie on take off if I crack the throttle wide open and lean back
The stock variator works best with stock belt if you used a aftermarket belt you may be starting in second gear
The malossi variator is a big improvement for shifting and top end compared to the stock variator .
Do you have a rpm gauge ?
If you do track it like this
Roll slow on the throttle where does the scoot start pushing you forward .
I like mine above 5 k rpms (I run medium springs stock clutch)
Where does the rpm gauge jump to when you hit the throttle wide open
I like it in the 8 -9 k range .
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Post by bigmatthew86 on May 29, 2023 9:49:13 GMT -5
I have a pretty much identical build as well just a top performance kit. I do have a multivar & while mine doesn’t wheelie on takeoff it shoots off the line pretty fast as well.
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Post by riot on May 29, 2023 17:50:41 GMT -5
not to hijack the post but i have a stock 50cyl minarelli with a polini team 4 exhaust and a malossi multivar and im only getting 7900rpms on my tach. power deff feels up but im down almost 1000rpm compared to stock. what gives?
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Post by Zino on May 29, 2023 18:47:57 GMT -5
not to hijack the post but i have a stock 50cyl minarelli with a polini team 4 exhaust and a malossi multivar and im only getting 7900rpms on my tach. power deff feels up but im down almost 1000rpm compared to stock. what gives? The port Timing on the stock cylinder is not a great match for your pipe . That pipes wants to rev higher than the cylinder is designed for What weights do you have in the variator most pipes require much lighter weights |
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Post by cryslr on May 30, 2023 19:27:34 GMT -5
WoW, Thanks Zino, who thought putting on my old belt would help so much. You are the Vino whisperer. Put the stock belt on and real picks up speed quicker. Now I can start tuning the clutch springs/ contra spring for better take off. Before changes didn’t real seem to help. Might get the Multi Var. in future, but for now I’m good, saved me $100. Thanks again
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Post by riot on May 30, 2023 20:15:28 GMT -5
not to hijack the post but i have a stock 50cyl minarelli with a polini team 4 exhaust and a malossi multivar and im only getting 7900rpms on my tach. power deff feels up but im down almost 1000rpm compared to stock. what gives? The port Timing on the stock cylinder is not a great match for your pipe . That pipes wants to rev higher than the cylinder is designed for What weights do you have in the variator most pipes require much lighter weights i went down from the kits stock 7g to a 6g set and then a 5g set both with a huge hit to the top end. i am planning a malossi sport cyl during the off season if that would help at all. |
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Post by Zino on May 30, 2023 20:21:55 GMT -5
The white contra is the most you will need .
I only have used the yellow with alot higher rpm and horsepower set up to combat belt slip
Its best to take the lightest contra you can get away with for long term wear and tear on your transmission.
I actually just run stock zuma contras on the vinos they are stiffer than the vinos and little less than a white contra spring .
The yellow clutch springs would be my first choice the white engage just a little lower rpm .
I kinda like the snappier take off of engaging in the meat of the power band when possible others like to start at the beggining of the power band for a smoother take off
When you get the multi var you can slap that malossi belt back on or use the stock belt
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Post by Zino on May 30, 2023 20:23:04 GMT -5
The port Timing on the stock cylinder is not a great match for your pipe . That pipes wants to rev higher than the cylinder is designed for What weights do you have in the variator most pipes require much lighter weights i went down from the kits stock 7g to a 6g set and then a 5g set both with a huge hit to the top end. i am planning a malossi sport cyl during the off season if that would help at all. What rpms are you spinning up to when you hit the throttle wide open and then what rpms does it peak at Top speed |
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Post by riot on May 30, 2023 21:38:08 GMT -5
i went down from the kits stock 7g to a 6g set and then a 5g set both with a huge hit to the top end. i am planning a malossi sport cyl during the off season if that would help at all. What rpms are you spinning up to when you hit the throttle wide open and then what rpms does it peak at Top speed reaching around 8200rpms at 52mph on gps. ill have to take a ride tomorrow and watch the tach to get the first number. |
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