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Post by frankenscootdk on Jun 15, 2023 15:31:06 GMT -5
Would like to know more info on this cam, can you guys help?
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Post by FrankenMech on Jun 15, 2023 16:47:18 GMT -5
Camshaft data on a specific cam would have to come from the manufacturer or maybe the distributor. Suppliers change manufacturers also. Good luck!
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Post by frankenscootdk on Jun 16, 2023 4:17:49 GMT -5
Camshaft data on a specific cam would have to come from the manufacturer or maybe the distributor. Suppliers change manufacturers also. Good luck! Haha of course, great.  Thank you. So my search continues.. Best regards and happy scootin' |
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Post by snaker on Jun 16, 2023 8:29:40 GMT -5
Finding info on this stuff is like finding water in the desert.
Electrical is probably the worst of all.
Compare to automotive where one can step into a parts store (at least one in every town)
You tell them your problem, they go into their system, ask you several questions, and tell you what part you need.
This stuff has no system for aftermarket and outside of Honda, Yamaha, etc, can't even help much with stock parts.
Even the vendors and peddlers of these parts don't seem to have a clue.
So good luck and if you do find anything, please post it here.
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Jun 16, 2023 10:45:03 GMT -5
As they say, Good luck.
Did a quick search, and found multiple vendors. Variable pricing, too. The specs that were touted was the diameter of the cam lobes. I suspect that translates to the actual lift compared to a normal factory cam.
I cannot state anything beyond that guess. To gain performance, it seems that the lift is limit by the clearance demanded when the valve is fully opened and having the retainer NOT impact the valve guide boss. To attain lift the easiest way is to grind on the heel of the lobe, reducing its diameter so the 'lift' from the heel/valve closed to the tip of the lobe high spot is increased over stock while still using the same cam 'blank' to grind on.
One who has access to machinery could grind some from the heel and thus increase the effective lift while still using readily available cams. Limited as above, along with the geometry of the rocker arm follower pad and the interface with the tip of the valve stem.
IOW, got no clue.
tom
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Post by FrankenMech on Jun 16, 2023 15:52:42 GMT -5
Cam 'angle' is just one small part of what defines a cam.
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Post by fugaziiv on Jun 21, 2023 14:59:20 GMT -5
You guys know I AM SSP-G, right? Anyone selling this cam buys it for resale from me. You can just reach out to me with question regarding the brand at my email: matt@partsforscooters.com. As far as the SSP-G cam, what would you like to know? We provide lobe specs, and it does provide an honest 1hp lift across the rev range when tuned correctly. I'll be happy to provide information that isn't proprietary (like grind angles, sorry) to our design.
Matt
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Post by frankenscootdk on Jun 21, 2023 17:25:52 GMT -5
As they say, Good luck. Did a quick search, and found multiple vendors. Variable pricing, too. The specs that were touted was the diameter of the cam lobes. I suspect that translates to the actual lift compared to a normal factory cam. I cannot state anything beyond that guess. To gain performance, it seems that the lift is limit by the clearance demanded when the valve is fully opened and having the retainer NOT impact the valve guide boss. To attain lift the easiest way is to grind on the heel of the lobe, reducing its diameter so the 'lift' from the heel/valve closed to the tip of the lobe high spot is increased over stock while still using the same cam 'blank' to grind on. One who has access to machinery could grind some from the heel and thus increase the effective lift while still using readily available cams. Limited as above, along with the geometry of the rocker arm follower pad and the interface with the tip of the valve stem. IOW, got no clue. tom Thank you Tom, I will look into this. best regards |
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Post by frankenscootdk on Jun 21, 2023 17:28:55 GMT -5
You guys know I AM SSP-G, right? Anyone selling this cam buys it for resale from me. You can just reach out to me with question regarding the brand at my email: matt@partsforscooters.com. As far as the SSP-G cam, what would you like to know? We provide lobe specs, and it does provide an honest 1hp lift across the rev range when tuned correctly. I'll be happy to provide information that isn't proprietary (like grind angles, sorry) to our design. Matt Nice to meet you Matt. I have read a comment from you regarding the cam in a post somewere, but could not find it again. I have chosen many of your parts. Would just like to know the points of highest lift and the overlap? Overall all the specs you can give me for it. This is for private use only. |
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Post by frankenscootdk on Jun 27, 2023 10:11:12 GMT -5
You guys know I AM SSP-G, right? Anyone selling this cam buys it for resale from me. You can just reach out to me with question regarding the brand at my email: matt@partsforscooters.com. As far as the SSP-G cam, what would you like to know? We provide lobe specs, and it does provide an honest 1hp lift across the rev range when tuned correctly. I'll be happy to provide information that isn't proprietary (like grind angles, sorry) to our design. Matt Have also sent a request through e-mail |
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Post by frankenscootdk on Jun 28, 2023 2:53:02 GMT -5
Damn! What a BIG SECRET.
I feel they are hiding this simple info..
Latest answer was they only have a sketch showing width, height and radiuses.
Can not imagine the company ordering from a manufacturer blindly without specification and then putting their brand name on it. Especially taking into account that they have such detailed info regarding everything else in store.
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Jun 29, 2023 12:51:36 GMT -5
frank... maybe get a 'degree wheel' and mount it to your crankshaft. Then a dial indicator so you can find exactly where the ramp begins and ends for both lobes. I think our host has a video on degreeing his timing overlap/?? on his 2T. Use his setup for your machine, and dial indicators as needed.
I do not know the reason you want to know the cam timing unless you plan on making modifications... or grinding a cam of your own. But to each their own.
You could also watch hot rod vids on YT and see how they 'degree' a cam. It is the same procedure AFAIK.
tom
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Post by frankenscootdk on Jun 30, 2023 3:36:11 GMT -5
It is my plan to degree it my self if they aren't willing. Why the proprietary word was tossed in (plus other) made me wonder.
Amen for the chief and his youtube videos, and for you being you.
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Post by FrankenMech on Jun 30, 2023 8:57:51 GMT -5
I always degree any cam.
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Post by fugaziiv on Jul 10, 2023 14:46:13 GMT -5
It is my plan to degree it my self if they aren't willing. Why the proprietary word was tossed in (plus other) made me wonder. Amen for the chief and his youtube videos, and for you being you. Turns out this is a 100% unique product to us, so we aren't releasing additional specifications on the product to reduce copies in the market. It's a run it and enjoy, or don't, kind of item from us. We have a few proprietary items in our product line that we're comfortable releasing limited information on for various reasons. Sorry that what we're offering is not up to your standard. Matt |
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Thank you.
