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Post by loicloicloicloic on Feb 28, 2012 19:03:28 GMT -5
Hi everyone First I want to thank everyone on this board, it has been a tremendous help in fixing the Keeway Hurricane I'm trying to make roadworthy. (it now runs but could be better) Ok, so the thing sat for a year and a half, and wouldnt start, so I cleaned the carb inside out, tightened the cylinder head However, I didn't know jack about jets, so after cleaning the carb I just screwed in the main and pilot jets. Needless to say, for a while it didnt start up at all. So after fiddling with the jets and float height it now starts and runs, but lacks some power when going up hills (will kind of stutter (too rich?), and have to accelerate very slowly for it to climb hills) Anyways, my main question was, on this pz19jb carb, the service manual states the float height should be 13mm. From what I've read, the height is measured from the gasket surface to the very top of the float. However, even when pressed all the way against the bottom of the bowl, the top of the float is way more than 13mm. So I take it the 13 mm is measured at the "line" on the floater?? See the picture, it is not the same carb but you can see that line I'm talking about (it is the same kind of float on mine). At this point my jets are that much screwed in: Pilot - 1\2 turn out Main - 1\2 out and a tad more out Does that sound like it makes sense? Like I said, it runs ok but will sometimes lack power when going up a small hill (and that gets worse with 2 people on it). Does lack of power = bit too rich so need to screw in the main jet a tad more? Thanks a lot, sorry my post is so long. Luke Attachments:
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Post by 90GTVert on Feb 28, 2012 19:21:52 GMT -5
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Most of the time the easiest way to set float height is simply to make it look parallel to the base of the carb when held as the pic shows. I don't ever measure anymore. If you still wanna measure, yeah, measure to the line.
The jets should be screwed in all the way. You might adjust the mixture screw or idle speed screw, but the jets are not adjustable. Screw them in snug.
Lack of power 2up and on hills could simply be the fact that it's a 49cc. I'd start by screwing the jets in before I tried anything else.
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Post by loicloicloicloic on Feb 28, 2012 20:30:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the quick reply wow, I was way off track here, trying to adjust the jet screws...I really felt it made small differences EDIT guess what...I just found out the petcock is probably shot...can a petcock stop functionning just like that? I detached the fuel hose (after the filter) to take out the carb and go screw in the jets, and fuel just kept pouring out of the filter...then if I blew into the petcock's vacuum line, gas would stop flowing...and if I made a vacuum on it gas would flow again and wont stop... does that mean the petcock is broken? maybe that explains all.. OTHER EDIT well after I screwed in the jets (and found out the petcock is always on), the scoot would idle for 10 seconds before turning off, sounding like it is flooded...can that have anything to do with the petcock? I thought the float valve took care of stopping the fuel to the bowl so it shouldn't have to do with the petcock, right? Or maybe the petcock started spewing gas through the vaccum tube which would have flooded... Damn, I'm confused now... maybe it is something else altogether. Oh boy.
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Post by vvtr on Feb 29, 2012 2:49:03 GMT -5
what i do to measure float height is attach a clear tube to the bowl drain spout and run it up along the side of the carb. unscrew the drain screw and allow the carb to fill as normal. the fuel level inside the carb will level out with the fuel in the drain hose.
float height is usually something you will never have to adjust though.
i think as well you have the vacuum and breather pipe mixed up on the petcock. try swapping over the small tubes - fuel should only flow when there is vacuum from the engine!
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Post by loicloicloicloic on Feb 29, 2012 13:38:26 GMT -5
Thanks vtr, Yeah I just done that, connecting a clear hose, holding it alongside the carb and watch the fuel level out to the gasket mating point. As for the petcock, as I said, fuel flows with a vacuum applied to the vacuum tube, but then doesnt stop flowing when the vacuum stops (like it used to). So I will definitely change the petcock before anything else... Thank you
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Post by felliott on Feb 29, 2012 19:08:12 GMT -5
I have the same scooter, mine runs best with the idle mixture screw at 3/4 of a turn out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2012 19:45:54 GMT -5
Like I said, it runs ok but will sometimes lack power when going up a small hill (and that gets worse with 2 people on it). these are not designed to ride 2 ppl, if you do something is going to break. lighter weights in the variator will help but nothing helps like displacement. a 47mm or 50mm bore will get you moving
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