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Post by jmkjr72 on Mar 10, 2012 11:46:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 12:00:04 GMT -5
look at those levers on the right in that tank picture. that pic of the tank is a different bike than the rest of the pictures
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Post by reveeen on Mar 10, 2012 15:13:31 GMT -5
Clearly no one here has been to the Dominican Republic where LPG scooters are almost a way of life. Not quite like the one pictured, they seem to prefer 20 lb propane tanks bungied to the rear rack, or perched on the floorboards.... I would *think* using stuff like this: www.propane-generators.com/I have been *thinking* about doing one here, but as the price for 20lb propane fills locally is high, there is no incentive. (I guess I could make a "cheater" and fill my own from the huge tanks) In the 80's I was running several propane powered 1-5 ton trucks. At the time cost of operation was about $5 a day, you started them in the morning, and left them running all day. You run into troubles when you operate around the dew point. www.weatherquestions.com/What_is_dewpoint_temperature.htmAnd your perfectly working fuel system will freeze if you haven't figured out how to add heat safely to the operating parts of your fuel system. |
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Post by vvtr on Mar 10, 2012 16:12:17 GMT -5
i had a propane kit on my bus a while ago - it ran the engine, heating, shower & cooker!
was ok on flat roads but was nowhere near as much power on the hills.
dont see the point in going to the trouble of doing this to a low powered high mpg engine like a gy6 tbh unless there is no other fuel available at all.
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Post by aeroxbud on Mar 10, 2012 16:58:48 GMT -5
Over here you see lpg fitted to Range Rovers and cars with big engines as its much cheaper to run than petrol. Then why buy a big engined car if you can not pay the gas prices? Go figure.
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Post by one1 on Mar 10, 2012 20:48:56 GMT -5
Propane makes me nervous. Seen too many explosions from leaks, overheating, etc..... I sure as hell wouldn't sit on a tank all day.
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Post by larry001964 on Mar 10, 2012 22:15:01 GMT -5
Many Fork trucks have been powered by propane for years. I drive one every day, and every day have to change the tank, I don't see those as having a very long range before needing to exchange the tank. And I don't see many stations carrying that style or capacity of tank, most are for BBQ's 20 pounders...
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Post by tango on Mar 10, 2012 22:21:21 GMT -5
In Jamaica we use propane cylinders exclusively as cooking gas. Most people either have a 25lb or a 100lb. The 25s are usually kept indoors right next to the stove. The 100s are usually kept outside, next to the kitchen. There have been explosions, but not as many as you would think, considering that literally millions of Jamaicans live this way. It's pretty safe.
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Post by larry001964 on Mar 10, 2012 22:30:13 GMT -5
I know in the Philippines, most of their cooking stoves are kinda like our camping stoves.. Using propane 20 pound tanks. I have never heard of an explosion, I'm sure they have had them, but it's a pretty rare occurrence..
I used to rebuild antique John Deere Tractors, some of them were propane powered.. The propane tractors had no where near the power of the same sized gas or diesel powered counter parts.. Hated the company I worked for but loved the work, restoring those old tractors was really a joy..
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Post by jmkjr72 on Mar 10, 2012 22:37:49 GMT -5
yeah hardly any filling stations for lp in the us
and the ones you do find are more set up to handle a 20lb tank instead of a vehicle
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Post by reveeen on Mar 11, 2012 2:54:29 GMT -5
Over here you see lpg fitted to Range Rovers and cars with big engines as its much cheaper to run than petrol. Then why buy a big engined car if you can not pay the gas prices? Go figure. In my case trucks with diesel engines were 3X the price of gas engined trucks. You have to remember: in N. America a diesel car is a pretty rare item, so in the larger cities a taxi is no stranger to propane. (meaning: there is usually plenty of used stuff to convert in the junkyards for cheap) Fitting alternate energy sources to road vehicles is regulated here requiring a license. (there are special yearly inspections in some places) The only advantage, I can see, is dodging the road tax. Using 20 lb tanks you could successfully dodge the road tax (which accounts for 40% of the price of gasoline where I live). Filling stations here are few, and far between, unless you live in a big city. The guys who fill stand alone tanks are not permitted to fill vehicles here as they are not set up to collect road tax. Power on propane is generally 20% less, and depending on the quality of the propane, gives you less mileage (the gas you buy as "propane" can vary pretty widely in the BTU per unit measure). The upside is: there is almost 0 fuel contamination of the oil. Roughly: A 20lb tank is 5 gallons of propane. If you take a 20% "hit" on the power/mileage 5 gallons of propane = 4 gallons of gasoline. You would compare the cost of filling a 20lb tank to the cost of 4 gallons of gasoline. Today gasoline is $1.34 a liter ($6.03 a gallon) compared to a $20 fill for a 20lb tank of propane. |
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