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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2012 18:38:31 GMT -5
these are lean as hell at sea level so if you were up high that would be worse
i guarantee you it was from being lean i have seen 5 now with less than 2000 miles do this
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Post by nitroman666 on Jul 20, 2012 10:33:51 GMT -5
We shouldn't forget the quality control of these scooters though. Not a real surprise that they would have flaws such as these.
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Post by \\-olf on Jul 30, 2012 0:01:15 GMT -5
And the funny thing is I have 1200 on the chinometer and not one bit of trouble with the engine, always starts right up, runs well, easily hits 35-40 mph with more throttle left to go, and I took it out today for a 15 mile ride.
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Post by torrmundi on Jul 30, 2012 12:26:15 GMT -5
1FASTQMB wrote about finding Keihin carbs on ebay. There are a few, but the majority are knockoffs. One even says "Kaihin" on casting, visible in the photo! The easiest ways to tell are 1) if the add does not say Keihin and 2) if the price is about $30 instead of about $80.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2012 1:17:58 GMT -5
they work great  |
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Post by xxxSmokeKUSH420alldayxxx on Aug 1, 2012 21:48:30 GMT -5
I can vouch for this problem. I have a 2012 tao tao, I had it for 2 weeks and the piston scored itself. No customer support. DONT BUY THIS SCOOTER UNLESS YOUR IMMEDIALTY UPGRADING THE ENGINE OR CARB.
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Post by rukus on Sept 23, 2012 18:45:58 GMT -5
hello, i am new to the scooter scene and have no clue what to change out on my new taotao 50 49cc. so if guys can give me a list of things i should swap out let me know plz. name brand and part number. i wanna keep this scoot for a long time. and one more then i found a hose on the right side of the scooter not connected to anything is that normal ? thanks
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Post by \\-olf on Sept 23, 2012 20:01:18 GMT -5
hello, i am new to the scooter scene and have no clue what to change out on my new taotao 50 49cc. so if guys can give me a list of things i should swap out let me know plz. name brand and part number. i wanna keep this scoot for a long time. and one more then i found a hose on the right side of the scooter not connected to anything is that normal ? thanks I changed on mine: Tires, carb, all rubber hoses, fuel filter, plug, oils. I bought Kenta tires,think they were about $50 for the 2, rubber hoses and filter from Napa, I installed a regular NGK plug not the iridium- I don't feel it's worth the extra cost for iridium. Carb came from Greg at Mainelyscooters, it was about $35 if I remember, and I upjetted it- one of my older posts say what sizes *I* used but I don't remember now. I also bought a can of seafoam after reading about it and the reviews on it, it's added to the gas. An unused rubber hose just hanging is likely the carb bowl DRAIN tube. |
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Post by rukus on Sept 26, 2012 22:24:16 GMT -5
thanks for the info but what size carb, main, and jet would you recommend?
i tried looking for the parts but i know no clue the size and dimensions
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Post by prodigit on Oct 11, 2012 0:30:15 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I just got a Tao Tao 50CC bike like on that picture.
If the carb is running too lean, would it help to install a small fuel pump, and how would you rate the install (from 0 (difficult) to 10 (easy)?
Combined with a better air intake, would I see any improvements?
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Post by inuyasha on Oct 11, 2012 0:50:15 GMT -5
Hey guys, I just got a Tao Tao 50CC bike like on that picture. If the carb is running too lean, would it help to install a small fuel pump, and how would you rate the install (from 0 (difficult) to 10 (easy)? Combined with a better air intake, would I see any improvements? Hi Your over thinking and making things much harder then they have to be. If your running lean its much easier, and far more cost effective to just get larger jets in the proper size. Read through this to understand how the carburetor works and about fine tuning them www.battlescooter.com/1.htmlTake care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by prodigit on Oct 11, 2012 1:16:10 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I'm not very mechanically inclined. To me it seems obvious that the installation of a fuel pump is a lot easier, than opening a carburator.
First, opening the plastic casing of a scooter scares the heck out of me!
My experience tells me 90% of the cases I either am left with a broken plate, or screw attachment.
Then there's the finding and de-mounting the carburator. Provided if I disconnect it correctly, I still have to (de-)mount it, hoping I will remember where each screw was, without screwing up.
Then I'd have to do the jets, which I know nearly nothing about.
If you ask me, connecting a vacuum hose, a fuel in and out hose, and mounting the pump to the frame, seems like a lot more easy to do, unless my inexperienced mind overlooks many other factors...
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Post by inuyasha on Oct 11, 2012 1:23:09 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I'm not very mechanically inclined. To me it seems obvious that the installation of a fuel pump is a lot easier, than opening a carburator. First, opening the plastic casing of a scooter scares the heck out of me! My experience tells me 90% of the cases I either am left with a broken plate, or screw attachment. Then there's the finding and de-mounting the carburator. Provided if I disconnect it correctly, I still have to (de-)mount it, hoping I will remember where each screw was, without screwing up. Then I'd have to do the jets, which I know nearly nothing about. If you ask me, connecting a vacuum hose, a fuel in and out hose, and mounting the pump to the frame, seems like a lot more easy to do, unless my inexperienced mind overlooks many other factors... Hi The problem is that even with the addition of a fuel pump you would still be running lean as the jets determine the air/ fuel mixture not the pump. You would still need to up jet to rectify the problem even with the pump. And if your not mechanically inclined owning a chinese scoot is by far not the best option unless you have a local mechanic who can work on them as they require constant regular maintenance and repairs to operate at their best. Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by Goosey on Oct 11, 2012 8:00:24 GMT -5
Hey guys, I just got a Tao Tao 50CC bike like on that picture. If the carb is running too lean, would it help to install a small fuel pump, and how would you rate the install (from 0 (difficult) to 10 (easy)? Combined with a better air intake, would I see any improvements? Hi Your over thinking and making things much harder then they have to be. If your running lean its much easier, and far more cost effective to just get larger jets in the proper size. Read through this to understand how the carburetor works and about fine tuning them www.battlescooter.com/1.htmlTake care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank What he said. If you are too lean you just need to replace a jet, which is not much different than removing a screw, and putting in a new one. Removing the carb is as simple as opening 2 clamps, and if you print out a diagram of the carb, and organize the parts as you work, you should have no problems. A different pump, won't solve your problem, and you have plenty of air delivery already. You may be able to reach the carb by simply removing the seat. If you are unwilling/unable to work on that basic part, do yourself a favor, sell the Chinese scoot, and find a good used Honda scooter that you can take to a dealership for work. Like said before, there is a lot of regular maintenance to do to keep them running well and reliably. |
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Post by stillgar on Oct 14, 2012 8:04:41 GMT -5
Having a digital camera is an excellent resource for taking stuff like this apart. You can take as many pictures from as many angles as you want, including videos, so you'll be able to look at how it all goes back together. There are also tons of excellent online youtube videos and other helps. I know- I was like you, in that I was reluctant to take my scooter apart.
These other guys, the pros, are right. In my limited exposure to these scooters, I have found that the Chinese ones can give you a lot of fun, but you have to be willing to work on them. If you had money to constantly take them to a shop, you could afford a Honda. I know I don't have that kind of money, and the parts for these are ridiculously cheap online. I tackled a broken camshaft by myself, with some guidance from the kind folks here. It turned out to be a $29 repair, and I was able to move on to the next task (getting it started). I still have much plastic to re-attach, as I only have 1 hour a week to work on it.
Good luck- it's not that scary. The good news is you can buy a whole new motor for just over $300 or so if the thing blows up. Can't do that with a Honda!
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