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Post by bluesi808 on Apr 19, 2012 16:23:14 GMT -5
What's the widest performance tire that you can fit on a keeway matrix or other qj, yamaha, minarelli based scooter. On the rear. I have a 12 inch rim, and I'm not interested in boppers. Also is it possible to install a 13 inch rim on my scoot? Like stock sr50 or aerox wheels? I'm noticing more performance oriented rubbers are made for 13's
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Post by reveeen on Apr 19, 2012 17:28:27 GMT -5
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The "standard" racing tires are Dunlop TT92's. You may find some running Pirelli, Bridgestone, or Conti tires, but the "standard" are Dunlops.
(unless you are *thinking* hanging an ATV tire/wheel on a scooter is somehow a "performance thing"?)
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Post by theo547 on Apr 19, 2012 17:51:34 GMT -5
not sure how much performance your looking for but, i have a Michelin City Grips on my Keeway Matrix and love them to death for city driving. have never had a time where they didnt feel like they had total control on the road.
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Post by bluesi808 on Apr 19, 2012 18:07:51 GMT -5
My stock kendas are pretty horrible all around. I know it sounds dumb but I really wanted to add a fatty rear wheel like the rucks but it involves moving the engine and I can't find the right hub adapter. So I just wantto be able get the widest rear tire with an aggressive tread pattern.
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Post by theo547 on Apr 19, 2012 21:48:27 GMT -5
I wiped out with those kendas they are horrible! As I said for daily street driving those city grips are just fantastic. And if you shop around can be gotten cheap. Offroadhunting.com has some great prices on tires.
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Post by skuttadawg on Apr 20, 2012 1:58:31 GMT -5
Most can go up a size wider but check clearances first . Here is a visual calculator to compare two sizes against each other along with their specs . www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tirecalc.php . This place is the best for looking up tires by sizes and easy to use www.motorcycletire.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc? first try by rim and leave front or rear blank . Check for clearances for 13s as you just might be able to . Its hard to find good rims but here is some nice chrome 12s www.scootertronics.com/chromerims.htmlI have 13s and the 130/60/13 is a perfect doughnut ( what I call a fat tire ) that reminds me of a minibike feel sorta and much more stable than skinny tires . I can ride in the wind , not effected by cracks or patches like when I had a scooter with 3.5x10s and my scooters with 16s , brake in a real short distance with the help of discs F&R instead of drums ( its rare to have a 50 with rear disc ) , go fast in curves and feel safe at any speed , My 10s were like stunt driving at top speed . My 16s are more like a motorcycle feel kind of like a crossover from scooter to motorcycle but not wide enough and too tall for a short frame even though its a longcase bigger than some . To me 13 or 14 are the way to go as the shorter tires are to unstable and the tall 16 feel weird in a 90 degree turn but fine in the straights and most curves . Try to get a premium name set of tires if you can find and afford them as its worth the extra money after all the are between you and the pavement , so you want to be safe and in confort . Balancing really makes the scooter ride smoother especially at high speeds . My Echarm can hit 75 bu tit scary and unstable as the wimpy shocks have too much weight bias on the rear and the front skims like a boat but ok below 60 mph |
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Post by reveeen on Apr 21, 2012 8:06:50 GMT -5
I can't find the right hub adapter
You make one. On a lathe you cut the brake drum out of your existing wheel. Instant hub adapter. You then locate a rim with the right offset for your application (golf cart? ATV?) You then drill your hub adapter for wheel studs, press them in, bolt up the wheel.
a fatty rear wheel like the rucks
But you don't own a Ruckus. You own a scooter that is both: faster, and handles better........ why ruin it?
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Post by bluesi808 on Apr 21, 2012 15:31:29 GMT -5
Great thanks for the info, i just like the look of fatter rear tires. I just dont like the look of the ruckus otherwise i wouldve bought one.
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Post by reveeen on Apr 21, 2012 16:16:29 GMT -5
Generally, as a rule, the wider the tire, the more it slows up the handling of a scooter/motorcycle.
The scooters/motorcycles of old had very skinny tires. Without many hours of frame development you ended up with a very evil handling machine. Today we are using fat tires to cover up lack of care and control in both design and manufacturing.
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Post by skuttadawg on Apr 21, 2012 22:32:23 GMT -5
Fat tires ride better , more stable , shorter braking distance and look cool . I love my doughnuts on my 50
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Post by thumpergodd on Oct 28, 2013 13:44:59 GMT -5
 The "standard" racing tires are Dunlop TT92's. You may find some running Pirelli, Bridgestone, or Conti tires, but the "standard" are Dunlops. (unless you are *thinking* hanging an ATV tire/wheel on a scooter is somehow a "performance thing"?) Actually when you add a wider rear tire, there is more room for lowering your bike without scraping frame rails, which is always good for handling. The wider wheel tire combo allow the ass end of the bike to lift up as you lean and will increase "turn in". |
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Post by ryan on Oct 28, 2013 19:53:31 GMT -5
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Post by ruckhero on Oct 31, 2013 7:11:04 GMT -5
To answer your initial question, you can fit 4+3 7in wide rim on a minarelli with minimal offset of the engine if you put the 4in side of the wheel on the transmission side of the case. You can fit a 5in wide wheel without having to offset the engine case. Daytona sells 5in wide wheels. You can get a wheel hub for like 125 from standardfunctions.com and will require you to bore the center of the wheel, to fit the hub and you use allen bolts to bolt the wheel to the hub. My setup is similar to what raveen mentioned above with pressed ARP studs, in a turned down zuma wheel, bolted up to my 12x7 wheel. Also, here's an example of a tire lots of ruck guys use. Should fit your 12in wheel no matter how wide it is. People stretch this to fit on 8in wide wheels... AND Drowsports is a highly recommended seller. You will receive your parts in 3days. Period. www.drowsports.com/michelin-power-pure-sc-scooter-tires-3956/ |
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Post by bluesi808 on Dec 6, 2013 19:35:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, now can your point me in the right direction on where I can buy 12x4 and 12x3 Daytona wheels? Do they have a website? Thanks
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Post by skuttadawg on Jan 1, 2014 23:03:04 GMT -5
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