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Post by teddy554 on Apr 27, 2012 6:24:51 GMT -5
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Post by ravensguildassasin on Apr 27, 2012 6:49:26 GMT -5
not a bad price, good share. :thumb:
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 27, 2012 7:05:04 GMT -5
Very nice. I see a few things I like vs my GoPro (the first HD Hero not the latest Hero 2 model). It comes with an LCD screen that can be attached. That's a pretty expensive upgrade to the GoPro. The LCD screen should make it a lot easier to set the camera up just where you want without having to do a test vid and then watch it on a PC. Seems to have a laser pointer as well to aid aiming. It also has 3x zoom. The GoPro has no zoom. It is a digital zoom, rather than optical, but at least it does give you the option. Also comes with a remote. Not something you probably need, but can't hurt to have it around.
There's 1 thing I see that I really dislike vs the GoPro. I looked through the manual and I don't see anything about recording upside down. You might be surprised how often that comes in handy. I record upside down for different mounting angles probably half the time or maybe more with my GoPro. You can record and flip video in a good editing program though. Just makes life a little easier if the cam does it for you.
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Post by \\-olf on Apr 27, 2012 21:23:57 GMT -5
I was looking at the gopro too for vblogging a bit, only one of the models has an external mic jack- the $299 one, a bit pricey for me at the moment but I have it on the back burner for later
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 27, 2012 22:31:35 GMT -5
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Post by \\-olf on Apr 28, 2012 0:25:11 GMT -5
That's great! it's funny how you don't really "get" how small the GoPro is untill you see it in someone's palm! Funny enough, we are both fans of M13 it seems, I'm always saving his videos cause they are always good stuff. Quite a while back I did see that helmet cam revealed video he did, he wouldn't say what cam he has, and by now im sure that model is discontinued anyway (as are most electronic's models within months for the next version) But I did two things, I bought a Bell helmet as he indicated, but it's just not deep enough to allow space between the chinguard area and my chin/lips to put anything there, even digging out the foam as he did. He must have gotten a more elongated helmet than I did. He indicated he doesnt use a bona fide helmet cam, but uses a tiny camcorder because he said the helmet cam microphones dont work inside the helmet. The other thing I did was I found at Walmart a Samsung cam for $59 on the last day of their sale! Similar to this one; www.amazon.com/Samsung-HMX-W200-Waterproof-Recording-2-3-inch/dp/B004XIB9FU/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1335589960&sr=8-5It's only about 1/2" thick or so, pretty small and I thought I'd be able to mount it inside the Bell helmet, but once it arrived in the mail and I tried fitting it, as small as it is- it was clear it simply was too large to fit no matter which way I tried it. It takes awesome videos, it was a "wow!" when I opened the first test one done under my kitchen's fluorescent lights at night! So I'll use that as a regular camcorder. I looked at the contour and the GoPro and the GoPro seems to win in every way, I was wanting to maybe add commentary on the video much like M13 does, and that would almost demand an inside the helmet mic. The GoPro Hero2 has an external mic jack, and so that seems perfect since you can run a small mic cord into the helmet and velcro a mic in a good location and it will be out of the wind and engine noise. Amazon has it for $288.89, and this is the only one that has the ext mic jack, but at $288 it does include the whole bunch of different accessories and mounts, so it's not just the cam alone GoPro Camera HD HERO2 Edition Price: $288.89 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping Whats in the box; 1 11MP HD HERO2 Camera 1 Waterproof Housing (197′ / 60m) 1 HD Skeleton Backdoor 1 Rechargeable Li-ion Battery 1 USB Cable 1 Vented Helmet Strap 1 Head Strap 2 Curved Surface Adhesive Mounts 2 Flat Surface Adhesive Mounts 1 Three-Way Pivot Arm Assorted Mounting Hardware I have that on the "wish list" at Amazon for later, I spent a couple grand at an auction a couple of weeks ago, and today picked up a new firearm and ammo- $700 there, and I bought a kindle touch this week too, so I'm going to wait a bit before splurging on a cam  |
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 28, 2012 8:19:23 GMT -5
The accessories really do make or break the GoPro IMO. With no case or accessories it's a small cam, but you can't see what you're shooting or anything, so it's kinda useless. With the right accessories it can be mounted about anywhere to get whatever shot you desire. Check out different kits and make sure you choose what suits you best.
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Post by \\-olf on Apr 28, 2012 11:12:30 GMT -5
Yeah it would take a few test tries to mount the cam on the helmet so it correctly records what you look at and doesn't wind up filming the ground or the sky as you drive.
Ideally it would capture in the center of the video frame exactly what your eye's focal center were looking at when looking normally straight ahead. I like thta better than hard mounted on the bike in one static position, also I think there would be more vibration when mounted on the bike itself than "floating" so to speak on your helmet.
We have a gal here who seems to have a good cam setup- on youtube she is lauriejennifer same as here.
She may have changed something between videos because i noticed some had a different sound than newer ones, if I were to describe it I would say there was less to no bass and lots more trebel in some videos, and then in others (maybe the newest ones) the sound is much better, more bass and less treble if that makes sense.
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Post by inuyasha on Apr 28, 2012 11:17:31 GMT -5
Yeah it would take a few test tries to mount the cam on the helmet so it correctly records what you look at and doesn't wind up filming the ground or the sky as you drive. Ideally it would capture in the center of the video frame exactly what your eye's focal center were looking at when looking normally straight ahead. I like thta better than hard mounted on the bike in one static position, also I think there would be more vibration when mounted on the bike itself than "floating" so to speak on your helmet. We have a gal here (I think) who seems to have a good cam setup- on youtube she is lauriejennifer. She may have changed something between videos because i noticed some had a different sound than newer ones, if I were to describe it I would say there was less to no bass and lots more trebel in some videos, and then in others (maybe the newest ones) the sound is much better, more bass and less treble if that makes sense. Hi I like the stationary view and with the right cam being mounted on the scoot makes no difference with the quality of the video Heres one of my older vids with the cam mounted on the rear rack of my Puma Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by \\-olf on Apr 28, 2012 11:22:36 GMT -5
Hmm I wonder why the stationary cam mount you did produced a much better video than the test one I did holding a cam in 2 fingers firmly on the grip, it picked up EVERY bump, roll, tall pebble and road vibrations the bike had.
Will just have to test the GoPro out when I get one.
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Post by inuyasha on Apr 28, 2012 11:31:14 GMT -5
Hmm I wonder why the stationary cam mount you did produced a much better video than the test one I did holding a cam in 2 fingers firmly on the grip, it picked up EVERY bump, roll, tall pebble and road vibrations the bike had. Will just have to test the GoPro out when I get one. Hi That had some very good stabilization software built in, sadly i dont have that one any more as it was stolen when my puma was, it was in the underseat storage It was a DXG cam  000_0005 by inuyasha50, on Flickr www.dxgusa.com/products/quickshots/dxg-5b6vb.htmlTrying to find another at a good price as i won that one in a church raffle Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 28, 2012 11:32:17 GMT -5
Cam mounting is definitely one of those things where everyone seems to have their own taste and opinion. I like a well done helmet mount because it tends to be aimed at the points of most interest and it's kinda cool to see the rider's POV. Your neck and body also make great anti-vibration mounts, so video comes out more smooth in that respect. One big downside can be people like me that check gauges and whatever a lot. Some people say it's annoying to watch or causes too much movement. I have been told this about my helmet cam vids. I'm just used to watching temps, RPM, and speed closely because I do so much testing and tuning that it's a habit even when I'm just riding.
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Post by inuyasha on Apr 28, 2012 11:42:34 GMT -5
Cam mounting is definitely one of those things where everyone seems to have their own taste and opinion. I like a well done helmet mount because it tends to be aimed at the points of most interest and it's kinda cool to see the rider's POV. Your neck and body also make great anti-vibration mounts, so video comes out more smooth in that respect. One big downside can be people like me that check gauges and whatever a lot. Some people say it's annoying to watch or causes too much movement. I have been told this about my helmet cam vids. I'm just used to watching temps, RPM, and speed closely because I do so much testing and tuning that it's a habit even when I'm just riding. Hi Brent Great video :thumb: I would have loved to shoot POV helmet cam but as you can see from the photos my old cams shape made it hard to mount, so the rear rack worked perfectly with a gorillia pod joby.com/gorillapod Cam and tripod 005re by inuyasha50, on Flickr  Cam and tripod 007re by inuyasha50, on Flickr My new camera( Canon Rebel T3i) is a little too expensive for mounting so im looking at getting a gopro hero as well Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by \\-olf on Apr 28, 2012 17:27:28 GMT -5
I like a well done helmet mount because it tends to be aimed at the points of most interest and it's kinda cool to see the rider's POV. Your neck and body also make great anti-vibration mounts, so video comes out more smooth in that respect. One big downside can be people like me that check gauges and whatever a lot. That's exactly how I feel on the helmet mount, the points of interest and the like, and on your head it should be less vibration. On the gages and mirrors, I find I rarely ever move my head to look as I have excellent peripheral vision and I tend to just move my eyes to look at the dash and mirrors. I just made a video on the way to the post office and down the road and back, putting that Samsung cam in my shirt pocket facing forward, even in there it still got quite a bit of shaking and vibrations. About half the video it was pointing mostly at the dash but the rest wasn't bad as far as the view goes. I was cruising at 40 mph, the chinometer shows it, I know 30 is accurate as I time/distance checked it and it was right around 30-31 mph where the thing said it was 30, so I assume 40 is going to be fairly close to the same accuracy, but could be a couple mph off up there. I had the throttle around 3/4 open I guess, it wasnt wot. The speed limit is 30 in town and I was following and slightly catching up to a van in the video that was probably going around 35. Attachments:
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Post by \\-olf on Apr 29, 2012 13:05:09 GMT -5
If you really want to see what a gopro hero can do, check out THIS video made onboard a remote controlled model airplane in the canyons of Utah
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