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Post by ernemai on Jan 7, 2013 23:00:59 GMT -5
new thread: the intensity of the lamps varies depending on the acceleration also affect the engine idle. I have changed twice the regulator but still the same problem. The battery has 12.6 volts with the engine off and goes to 13.9 volts or more with engine is on + throtle.
has the scooter a light system problem? how could I improve it?
thanks
(hate winter)
previous thread: thanks to all you guys for this website, specially to 90GTVert.
Here I go, my chinese scooter in winter season (0 to -12) is almost imposible to start up by electric starter, the engine sound like stuck in each try, battery power going down and my best option is start up by kickstart; seems as some parts of the engine expand or contract by temperature. is that possible? advices?
thanks. :scoot:
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Post by jmkjr72 on Jan 7, 2013 23:07:21 GMT -5
is that f or c temps
if its f your freaking nuts to ride that cold
find a way to heat the oil
also a battery with more cca that the oem battery will help
over on scooter rebles there is a person hanging a hair dryer so it blows on the engine to heat it up
there are also tons of magnetic heaters for cars but with an al case that wouldnt work real well
you could try a small battery heater for a car or a heater for a lizzard cage
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Post by ernemai on Jan 8, 2013 9:21:05 GMT -5
it's in Celsius, today was -7 C; maybe starter motor is frozen each morning. :help: Attachments:
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Post by jmkjr72 on Jan 8, 2013 11:09:45 GMT -5
no its not the starter frozen
just like a car it takes more cranking amps in the cold to get the engine to turn over
the oil is thicker when its cold and makes it harder to turn over
like i said a battery that has more cranking amps and a way to actualy warm the engine up will help it start up
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Post by Fox on Jan 8, 2013 15:03:09 GMT -5
You can get a heat lamp and point it upward at the engine for a 15 minutes or so to warm up the oil. Or get a little forced air space heater and point it at the engine for a while. I've seen a couple guys that actually park their scoot in the house in the winter. Heat lamp: www.extremepumpkinstore.com/media/ecom/prodsm/heatlamp1.jpg |
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Post by ernemai on Jan 8, 2013 20:32:12 GMT -5
I don't have options to park inside home but I will try with a battery that has more cranking amps. Recently tunned valves up to 0.04 and it's getting less complicated than before start up the engine. Obviously I'm learning from all your comments and videos. :rockon:
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Post by jmkjr72 on Jan 8, 2013 20:58:29 GMT -5
these options can be used even if you are parked outside
do you not have acess to ele any where near where you park
what about a temporary shelter just about anything you could do to block the wind and hold the heat in from the last time it ran would help also
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Post by ernemai on Jan 13, 2013 21:41:50 GMT -5
I cover everyday but not make a difference.
Thinking to extend power line from my apartment to the scoot in order to recharge the battery every two to three days or anytime it need it but without having to remove the battery, saving me of move the cover, screws and so on.
If add two connectors or plugs (+ / -), my question is: can I get direct to the battery without having to disconnect it? or must to use a switcher?
thanks. :zap2:
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Post by jmkjr72 on Jan 14, 2013 16:29:41 GMT -5
if you buy a battery tender jr
it will come with everything you need to be able to charge the battery while it stays in the scoot
it will have a pig tale to put on the battery and plug into the tender
but if your going to run a power cord out you are proably better off getting some sort of a heater on it to warm the oil and battery
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rathi
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Post by rathi on Jan 16, 2013 14:12:18 GMT -5
ya I ride all winter like you. Gets down to 0 F some days.
The batterie that came with your scooter will not start it on the cold days. I just give my scooter 2 kicks and away we go. I may replace the batterie with a good one some day but the kick starter works great. People have said that the kick start will brake if you use it to much but I have kickstarted my bike 100s of times and still works great.
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Post by ernemai on Jan 17, 2013 22:17:22 GMT -5
Yes, the battery is the big trouble and I have been looking for a good one but the size is the issue, hope to find it soon. BTW, I added two terminals(+/-) for easy recharge otherwise have to remove anti-thief cover and battery cover. Because I have a profesional recharger for batteries of airplane or RC model which I can set up type / volts / amp so slow recharge will be fine without remove all screws and so on. Let's see how is going. I'm not chinese but I'm living in China. Apart the trouble with the language, here you can find 100s of spare parts for most of chinese scooters.
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\\-olf
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Iowa
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Post by \\-olf on Jan 20, 2013 17:41:58 GMT -5
I guess I can be smug, my TT50 bought new last March, now with almost 1800 km on it still has the original factory installed battery and I don't have any issues getting it started even today when it was a high of 10*F, or even when I got up for work a couple of weeks ago and it was 1*F outside. Today it snowed, so I was riding it for errands with about 1 maybe up to 2" of snow on the ground.
I don't do anything special with my scooter for parking it over night, no heaters, heat lamps, battery tenders or garage, I only run it up a little ramp to my enclosed porch and park it there on the end which is not totally enclosed.
In the morning it either starts up immediately, or if not I crank it for 5-10 secs and it starts, and if it doesn't by then I give it a quick but gentle kick with the kick starter, usually only takes one or two short quick kicks and it starts right up.
Then I let it warm up while I get my sweater, coat, gloves and hat on and by the time I go out and lock the front door I can just drive right off.
I did notice it was a little harder to start in the cold weather at first, so I switched from high octane premium gas to just regular unleaded gas, and it seemed that helped a lot. I thought about the premium high octane's purpose- to help prevent detonation in HOT weather, and it does this by being slightly less volatile, in other words- slightly harder to ignite and that's NOT what you want in the cold months!
I also add a little seafoam to the gas.
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\\-olf
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Iowa
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Post by \\-olf on Jan 20, 2013 17:51:34 GMT -5
People have said that the kick start will brake if you use it to much but I have kickstarted my bike 100s of times and still works great. It will break if used like a motorcycle kick starter, but if you engage the pinion inside and then a gentle but quick push, and dont thwomp the lever all the way to the end of it's travel, it should be ok. One thing I read that helps- loosen up the kick starter lever itself from the shaft and move it up (counterclockwise) to a slightly higher position to give you more travel higher up to avoid bottoming out and hitting the end of the travel. So if the lever is at the "2 o'clock" position, move it to say, the "1 o'clock" position and retighten. |
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