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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 25, 2009 20:50:57 GMT -5
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Bob
Scoot Enthusiast
The Builder
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Post by Bob on Jul 26, 2009 7:55:09 GMT -5
lol i wonder if there is actually any performance benefits from that....
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 26, 2009 8:11:47 GMT -5
Go ahead and get one on the way to your door Bob. Be our guinnea pig. Did you watch the video in the auction? I'd say seeing that 49cc at the end flying by was proof enough.  lol |
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 26, 2009 10:24:43 GMT -5
Ive seen that one before but i didnt know he had then on ebay for sale. I made a HHO generator for my car last summer. I can say that they work but for a car you need a pretty big one to make much of a diff. The stuff is very combustible and burns with a pop. Ive also seen HHO torches on utube cut through thick steel and remain cold to the touch and only use water for fuel.
LOL, i dont think i will be running out to buy one for my scoot though, to easy to make one.
I made one out of an old veggi steamer and some zip strips to show people how it works when the subject comes up. Most people just dont understand the theory and laugh until im lighting a spoon full of hydrogen bubbles, or they see me grabbing the battery charger and hooking it to a mason jar full of metal and water. You should see the looks!
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 26, 2009 10:53:04 GMT -5
I just can't see it gaining 9MPH on a 49cc like they say. Even if it did make 72cc kit power it costs $3 less than my 72cc kit complete with a head. Added displacement is a sure bet. IMO the typical salesman technique makes it a joke anyway. If you try to sell me a product like the late Billy Mays would, I lose all interest. Truly great products don't need that type of propaganda, yelling at the camera, salesmanship IMO.
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 26, 2009 10:57:22 GMT -5
True, i dont see it adding 9mph to a scooter. There is no substitute for cubic centimeters lol  |
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Post by stepthrutuner on Jul 26, 2009 18:28:35 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTb-UUVFvYYIn this video the guy evolves perhaps 500 cc of mixed H2 and O2 while using 12A x 14v = 168 watts or .22 hp for three minutes. When this mixture is utilized in a 50 cc four stroke engine that is enough for ten explosions or if the engine is merely idling at 1800 rpm this is a run time of 1/90 minute or 2/3 second. Hardly anywhere near a practical trade off of the energy used to evolve the explosive mixture to the energy it could produce burning it in an engine. Voltage output of charger(conservative) = 14v Current output of charger according to author = 12A watts per one hp = 746 Four stroke fires every other stroke i.e 900 explosions per minute
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 28, 2009 7:53:29 GMT -5
Agreed, it would take allot of hho to run one straight off hydrogen thats for sure. There is a car on utube that the guy claims run only on HHO, he says it starts on fuel then he converts to hydrogen. The cell is the size of his whole trunk and he has two alternators on it with electronics every were. It some were over seas. All you can hear is bubbling at the generator and alternators humming at the front. I dont know if its real or not, or if it will only idle or drive?. There is also a guy that ran a scoot off of hho also on the tube.
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Post by stepthrutuner on Jul 28, 2009 21:06:49 GMT -5
A quick way to produce hydrogen that requires no energy is to react aluminum foil in a sodium hydroxide (lye) solution. Try it. It makes really good hydrogen.... especially if you dry it by passing it through a deliquescent (drying) agent.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 28, 2009 21:11:19 GMT -5
Yeah, be careful with that. Don't seal off the container it's in... unless you want it to go boom. ;D
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 29, 2009 8:14:06 GMT -5
we used to make booms with that stuff when i lived in the country. The works TB cleaner, a 2liter bottle, and some strips of foil, i had no idea a plastic bottle could swell up so much before the boom lol.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 29, 2009 9:10:12 GMT -5
Same thing we did. We used 20oz bottles though. A friend of mine constantly drinks 20oz Mt. Dew so we had a seemingly endless supply in the bed of his truck. I went to try it again a couple of years ago and they changed The Works around so it doesn't work now. It's just as well, I really don't need to get myself into trouble.
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 29, 2009 22:01:03 GMT -5
Now they should call it "Dont works" hahaha
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 30, 2009 6:29:11 GMT -5
lol ;D
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Post by Thebatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:46:55 GMT -5
Same thing we did. We used 20oz bottles though. A friend of mine constantly drinks 20oz Mt. Dew so we had a seemingly endless supply in the bed of his truck. I went to try it again a couple of years ago and they changed The Works around so it doesn't work now. It's just as well, I really don't need to get myself into trouble. just to put my 2 cents worth in...here in n.c. they have a green AND a blue works brand...the blue still works!!....lmao.. i use 16oz, a pepsi can, works and boom..lmao |
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