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Post by redorchestra on Jun 3, 2010 0:15:36 GMT -5
I was riding along the other day, WOT about 65 Km/h and something happened. I don't know what but the bike hesitated seemed to pull back a bit then it just coughed and died and wouldn't go. Just blaaaaaaaaaaa.
I pulled over and got under it, I don't know what I was looking for but I looked anyway. Nothing, so tried starting it, no problem it started. Off I went.
Now I can't aproach 65. It feels like it's being pulled back when I get near 60. I am thinking gas filter or gas line.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 3, 2010 6:02:52 GMT -5
It may have just got too hot. Inspect your fuel system. Check your jetting. I've had soft seizes that re-fire immediately like this and some that take a long time. All of mine have been caused by some sort of tuning issue.
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Post by 2strokd on Jun 3, 2010 8:54:55 GMT -5
That sounds right...It also could have ran itself out of gas. Check
your filter and pet-cock. Sounds like Brent may be right though if it lost power
after that happened.
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Post by redorchestra on Jun 4, 2010 10:16:51 GMT -5
so is that a permanent power loss?  Also is there a noise with a soft seize. That is why I looked under. I thought something fell off because I heard a clunk ! I guess I'll buy some tools this weekend, just got a fat cheque from a new client so it'll pay for a lot. It could buy me a new scoot or two, but I prefer wrenches. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 4, 2010 10:28:33 GMT -5
If something is worn or damaged it would be permanent... err... permanent until you repair/replace whatever the issue is. If the speed was only lower jst after the issue, I'd say maybe it was just hot and running rough. If it still does it, that's not the case. The only noise I've really heard before a soft seize was spark knock. That's not always present or audible and shouldn't be a clunk like something fell off.
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Post by Goosey on Jun 4, 2010 19:45:40 GMT -5
The only time I've heard a clunk like something fell off, was when something fell off. The Baron threw a few bolts from the exhaust down the road, and the kick start lever, I just chased that down the other day. The evil Baron hates the kickstart levers. Double check for anything missing.
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Post by redorchestra on Jun 5, 2010 9:00:48 GMT -5
Last time I heard a clunk I lost my air fliter. But it is still on. I have also had a similar loss of power like this before when a shoe lace got sucked into the cooling fan. It wasn't mine, I don'tknoww where it came from, but it made a clunky noise too, wrapped its self up in the fan and made a mess. The scoot lost power for a while untill the lace was sufficiently shredded, about 1 minute riding, then it went well again. I opened it up and cleaned all the lace out about a month later.
I guess I'll need to pull the fan and check it for another shoelace or ...
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Post by redorchestra on Jun 5, 2010 9:03:52 GMT -5
by the way everyone, thanks for talking through all this. It always jogs my memory of what actually happened.
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Post by redorchestra on Jun 6, 2010 3:40:29 GMT -5
Is there any reason I shouldn't take my scoot to the car wash and spray the power hose into the engine shroud to clean some crap out of there?
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 6, 2010 4:52:54 GMT -5
I'm not so sure it's a good idea to ride there and then spray cold water on a hot engine.
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Post by redorchestra on Jun 6, 2010 7:53:54 GMT -5
I'm not so sure it's a good idea to ride there and then spray cold water on a hot engine. Yeah good thinking! I could just see it it cracking like a crystal cup in the dishwasher. But it is right across the street. I guess I could push it  Maybe I'll spray some cleaner on it before the push. But the crap that was caked in there, I couldn't even scratch through it with a screwdriver. I think I need to learn to remove the engine this week. :stars: as soon as my 4 stroke is running! ahhhhh shame  |
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 6, 2010 9:32:26 GMT -5
Oh, cool. Well, if you're gonna push it across it should be OK with a few precautions. Make very sure that no water can get into the air cleaner/carb. Avoid spraying any wires and try not to soak the stator etc... if possible. Of course avoid high pressure spray on hoses and anything else that is soft or could be damaged. I've cleaned my engines with hoses but never with real pressure unless they were apart (cases).
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Post by redorchestra on Jun 6, 2010 16:40:47 GMT -5
I'm only going to clean the fins on the engine . I'll just push the nozzle into the shroud where the flywheel and fan are, with the cover removed. I hope all the crap will come flying out the vent side.
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Post by Goosey on Jun 6, 2010 20:17:12 GMT -5
I'd be worried about hosing the stator, behind the flywheel. Electricity and water ya know?
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Post by redorchestra on Jun 7, 2010 0:21:04 GMT -5
I'd be worried about hosing the stator, behind the flywheel. Electricity and water ya know? :zap: Cool yeah. I'll see what I can do and report back to the board. I think I can clean the engine fins without getting anything else wet. I'll post some before and after shots. I wish I got a shot of it with all the shoe lace in there. It looked liked a mouse had been living in there. Guess I'm lucky that I went so far with it! |
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Maybe I'll spray some cleaner on it before the push. But the crap that was caked in there, I couldn't even scratch through it with a screwdriver.