I got this and a mint condition 93 Yamaha Razz to fix last night. I thought some of you might dig this homemade chopper that was built here in Indiana by Indiana Long Bikes. Its gotta 49cc four with a 4or5speed manual trans. I think its pretty cool and with a bit of work it would be really fn cool in my book (im easy when it comes to motors on anything homemade lol). The frame has quality welds and is straight as an arrow. I was able to get her fired up last night for a short trip down the street, it rides surprisingly well considering how it looks. I short shifted to fourth trying to see how many gears it has before it died on me. Its getting erratic spark then none. The owner thought it might have "jumped timing" but thats not it, runs to smooth to be valve timing anyway. My first assumption is that the coil is bad, or the plug is just weak. I havent dug into it yet, figured ide post some pics first lol.
And i wouldnt be a gentleman if i didnt invite my wife for a pic
Shoot, there for a minute Torquer was even checkin it out until he saw the neighbor walkin their female dog
Pretty cool. So is that a street legal scooter there? That wouldn't be legal here in MD. I want a scooter with that engine platform pretty bad, but I can't seem to fnd anything other than actual mopeds. That one should be a 4 speed semi-auto transmission. You've driven it so you'd know better than me, but I don't see a clutch cable running into the side cover like the full manual version has. Those engines came in full auto, semi-auto (shifting without a clutch), and full manual. Pretty much all of them are 4 speeds and can be 1Down3Up, 4Down(or 4Up), or rotary (N-1-2-3-4-N....). I haven't messed with one for a little while so there may be 5 speeds out there now, but the only 5 speeds used to be the ones modified by their owners with aftermarket 5 speed kits.
I really doubt it's a timing issue inside the engine, but if you did decide to check you can see without a lot of work on those engines. I can't see it in your pics, but on the left side of the engine (if you are sitting on the bike) there is a cover that can be removed that would let you see the cam sprocket so you could just line it up to the T on the flywheel (there is sometimes a little port or window for that too) and see if your cam sprocket is in the correct position. There are paper gaskets under there though, so unless you run of out of options you may wanna leave that alone.
Last Edit: Aug 19, 2009 9:06:00 GMT -5 by 90GTVert
Not legal here w/out an endorsement because it has gears that require you to shift. Its an auto clutched 4 speed, 4 down to upshift. I messed around with it a bit and all i did was pull the plug, saw that it was wet so i let it dry up and cleaned it, put it back in and she fired right up. It runs good, the timing is fine, all it needs is some carb cleaning and maybe a jet, i will know after i clean the carb. I need to talk with the owner first but it also needs the chain tightened, a new throttle, and some shifter linkage adjustments and hes good to go ;D.
The Razz is a surviver, its got 5,000 miles on it, all original. Runs good for a stock (geardriven) Razz. I got it 31mph tucked . I was j/k about it earlier. The airfilter dried up and sucked into the carb . After a good cleaning and a new filter she runs like a champ. This thing starts so well i dont even think my finger has hit the button yet and shes perrrnn away very very quietly. Its just cool for me to see one, brings back some good memories. I used to date a girl back when i was 14-15 that had a Razz just like this one. We used to ride 2 up on that thing every were we went . Now that i see how small these thing really are compared to Skeedr (witch is not that big either) i dont see how we did it lol.
Thats a good question about the 49 in the copper. If you look real close in the pic you can see the top motor mount has been cut. Makes me wonder if there wasnt a bigger motor in it at one point. It would be easy to put one in though. I guess this guy is selling it(or talked about it) for $200. I think its worth that the way it sits for sure
Last Edit: Aug 19, 2009 11:54:21 GMT -5 by 2strokd
The engine mounts for 49, 70, 90, 110, 125, etc... should all be the same. I have had a 49cc and 110cc engine in my cateye and never changed the engine mounts (other than fabbing them to fit the first engine of that style). The only difference is that the longer stroke of the larger motors extends the cylinder and therefor the head out farther. It doesn't look like that thing would have frame clearance problems though.
It looks like it's worth $200, but then again it's a chopper that needs an M endorsement. It's not gonna handle even as well as a decent scooter and it's gonna need a new engine to be comfortable even cruising at 50MPH. Around here, you'd get hassled by the cops for soemthing that small... if you ever got it through inspection in the first place. If you drove it like a scooter they'd want you to tag it like a motorcycle... and so on. That's what I went through just trying to tag a 70cc scooter. It's not a scooter, it's not a motorcycle, it's just a headache. Now all of my scooter are 49cc if anyone with a badge asks.
Pretty cool project but I wouldnt consider either one of them more than campsite toys.
Right , just repairs thats all. Just figured i would share with my gearhead buds . After riding the chopper a little i think it would be cool with a suicide shifter and some other touch ups. It would be cool for shows and camping thats about. I havent left my block in a pretty closed neighborhood
Last Edit: Aug 19, 2009 16:54:57 GMT -5 by 2strokd