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Post by dmpbuggy on Jun 29, 2014 21:22:42 GMT -5
Okay Im new to the scooter community. I currently have a 80cc motorized bicycle but im trying to get into the moped or ruckus community. Im currently in the process of saving, but im havnig trouble deciding which scooter to work on.. My decision is between a ruckus clone and a Tao Tao Atm50-a1. I know you can stretch ruckus clones easily and they look badass, and I know there have been people who stretched their chinese scooters before, But Ive seen NOTHING about stretched tao tao atm50a1's I really want the ruckus for its looks, but im super low on money & wouldnt mind putting work into the tao tao. Please help me decide which project to go through with  |
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 30, 2014 9:40:57 GMT -5
 If you really want the Ruckus clone consider saving up a little longer. The mechanical bits should be about the same though. Stretching is usually done by fabricating a longer motor mount. There's an example below. There are a couple of threads about lowering in the Tech Library, suspension section. 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/3578
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Post by twowheelinjim on Jun 30, 2014 15:38:13 GMT -5
I really like the ruckus clones. They can be made as fancy as an actual Ruckus for a fraction of the cost. If you search Craigslist often, I'm sure find a suitable scooter. I got lucky and found a Dongfang brand scooter that is a ruckus clone. It was wrecked but for a mere $75 it was worth it. I'm still waiting for a few engine components and I also robbed a few electrical parts off of it to get other scooters on the road. At least you have picked a model; that's probably the single most difficult part of owning a scooter. One other thing to consider, before you customize your scooter put at least 250 miles on it so you can get acclimated to riding. Afterwards, every time you make changes or modifications, you'll have a better understanding of what works for you and what doesn't. Most of all, have fun with it and be sure to give a wave to fellow scooter riders.
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Post by dmpbuggy on Jun 30, 2014 20:17:22 GMT -5
If you really want the Ruckus clone consider saving up a little longer. The mechanical bits should be about the same though. Stretching is usually done by fabricating a longer motor mount. There's an example below. There are a couple of threads about lowering in the Tech Library, suspension section. 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/3578 Hey! I actually just viewed that project tao tao series on youtube yesterday! So do you think the atm50-a1 would be it would be definitely possible to stretch the tao tao atm50-a1? and would it perform better (higher top speed & faster acceleration & hill climbing) with (or is it possible to add) a big bore kit & derestrict it & add a bunch of other little mods to it? |
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Post by dan50 on Jun 30, 2014 22:58:19 GMT -5
I've been trying to get information on stretching scooters. I don't have a welder, so it would have to be no-weld.
If anyone has plans or pictures on how they made a stretch, step by step, I would be very interested.
I know a lot of people have done stretches, but they don't post threads on how to do it.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 1, 2014 6:31:53 GMT -5
You can stretch pretty much any scooter if you have fabrication skills or know/pay someone that does. Same deal as what's posted above, have a longer motor mount built. Some have been looking for a good source for the engine mount for a MadDog 50 (the stock stretched Ruckus clone) because it has a longer mount. Haven't seen anyone post of actually buying one or their experience so my best advice there is email/call some Ice Bear dealers and see what they can do. Sorry I don't have more info, but stretched scoots aren't really my thing.
The TaoTao or the Ruckus clones share the same 139QMB engines and either can have a big bore kit, cam, head, CVT tuning parts, etc... installed and would perform better. I hear the Ruckus clones have slightly deeper gears which may make top speed just a little less without a gear swap, but if you want to go very fast I think most of these need a gear swap after the engine work is done anyway.
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Post by dmpbuggy on Jul 1, 2014 12:50:22 GMT -5
You can stretch pretty much any scooter if you have fabrication skills or know/pay someone that does. Same deal as what's posted above, have a longer motor mount built. Some have been looking for a good source for the engine mount for a MadDog 50 (the stock stretched Ruckus clone) because it has a longer mount. Haven't seen anyone post of actually buying one or their experience so my best advice there is email/call some Ice Bear dealers and see what they can do. Sorry I don't have more info, but stretched scoots aren't really my thing. The TaoTao or the Ruckus clones share the same 139QMB engines and either can have a big bore kit, cam, head, CVT tuning parts, etc... installed and would perform better. I hear the Ruckus clones have slightly deeper gears which may make top speed just a little less without a gear swap, but if you want to go very fast I think most of these need a gear swap after the engine work is done anyway. haha I dont need to go super fast, only need my scooter to go around 45-50mph, with a nice exhaust sound, and be stretched & lowered with a beautiful fatty in the back lol  |
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Post by scooterpimp on Jul 4, 2014 10:35:07 GMT -5
Looking to do 45-50 mph with a 139qmb. ? Forget the fat rear tire thing. & its possible.
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Post by Clank on Jul 7, 2014 7:09:36 GMT -5
I dont need to go super fast, only need my scooter to go around 45-50mph, with a nice exhaust sound, and be stretched & lowered with a beautiful fatty in the back lol Welcome. Now todays lesson will begin. The noob is apparently confused. #1 No Fat chicks on the back. Every Hogg has that on it somewhere. #2 (the 2nd half) Scooters and mopeds are "like" fat chicks. They are a hell of a lot of fun to ride, but you don't want your friends too see you on one. (Ladies it's only joke, I'm not trying to hurt anyone feelings, cause yeah my after 11yrs my ex put on about 40lbs started some fetish. Cubby chaser, yep I'm guilty + theirs the bonus of more of them to love.)
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Post by dmpbuggy on Jul 8, 2014 15:36:59 GMT -5
I dont need to go super fast, only need my scooter to go around 45-50mph, with a nice exhaust sound, and be stretched & lowered with a beautiful fatty in the back lol Welcome. Now todays lesson will begin. The noob is apparently confused. #1 No Fat chicks on the back. Every Hogg has that on it somewhere. #2 (the 2nd half) Scooters and mopeds are "like" fat chicks. They are a hell of a lot of fun to ride, but you don't want your friends too see you on one. (Ladies it's only joke, I'm not trying to hurt anyone feelings, cause yeah my after 11yrs my ex put on about 40lbs started some fetish. Cubby chaser, yep I'm guilty + theirs the bonus of more of them to love.) I mean I THINK if I got a normal 50cc I could make it look good.. When Im done it wont even look like a scooter |
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Post by looneyscoot on Jul 15, 2014 6:26:08 GMT -5
I kn ow a couple of people who own the Ruckus clones, and the first thing I noticed about them is they are not as fast as the normal scooter because they really are not built for speed. This type of scooter is made to cruise around on and look good. The Ruckus frame does not hang corners well because it is so low to the ground. I am thinking about buying one myself, but not as a everyday rider. I may be wrong, but i would not think it would be comfortable riding a qmb 139 Ruckus clone at 45- 50 miles per hour because of the fear of bottoming the frame out so easily. I think the Ruckus clones are freaking awesome, and it is next on my list to own one. Maybe by the time I buy one there will be more information on all of the mods that work well with them. Good luck on your purchase, and be careful of which scooter you buy, and make sure the scooter will fit your needs or you will be sorry you didn't.  |
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