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Post by 90GTVert on Mar 22, 2015 22:32:25 GMT -5
The arrow should always point at the exhaust on a 2T.
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Post by lonewolfncubs on Mar 22, 2015 22:46:49 GMT -5
Fox again thank you I will turn the piston around tomorrow morning first thing, will give you update after that's completed, as of right now, I have the battery charging as we speak since I drained it trying to start her up
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Post by lonewolfncubs on Mar 23, 2015 11:45:46 GMT -5
Well I did turn the piston around, it was much easier than when I first did it, but it still won't turn over, verify spark with old and new plug, made sure I got good contacts and ground, I even removed carb and spray carb cleaner just to make sure carb holes are clear of debris, it did not sound like last night when it was somewhat trying to start, this time it just continues to crank, I did make sure choke is on, and once again I attempted to turn over with and without that filter on the carb, any suggestions?
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Post by lonewolfncubs on Mar 23, 2015 11:52:47 GMT -5
Just wondering, I never removed the mount bracket for the carb on the frame, should I attempt to remove it? Is there anything that looks not right on the carb?
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Post by Fox on Mar 23, 2015 11:57:11 GMT -5
They don't like to start with an open carb throat. They need the air box installed to restrict air flow and the choke lever depressed. You can try covering the carb throat with your hand. It should fire up but as soon as you release your hand it will bog and die.
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Post by Fox on Mar 23, 2015 12:21:24 GMT -5
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Post by lonewolfncubs on Mar 23, 2015 13:05:45 GMT -5
Thank you fox, I did what you said, I put my hand over the intake, then I covered the air filter for less restriction as well, then I put a clean sock over the intake and all 3 methods the scoot sounded like it wanted to start but still don't turn over, funny even tho I turned the piston around , once i started to block and restrict air flow it still was smoking from the front of the carb.
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Post by lonewolfncubs on Mar 23, 2015 13:14:47 GMT -5
Could the stator assembly be the culprit? I don't know what that does on this scooter?
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Post by lonewolfncubs on Mar 23, 2015 14:38:17 GMT -5
Wow nevermind on that last question about the stator, I did my research and found out that keeps the battery charged, I'm lost, it's getting spark and fuel and I'm trying to control air weather it's full open air or completely cut off, but it won't turn over?
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Post by niz76 on Mar 23, 2015 14:47:13 GMT -5
Maybe stuff a wadded up rag over the carb to "choke it" and use carb cleaner/starting fluid?? If you have fuel, spark, and compression these are the 3 main ingredients! With no air filter it's going to be very very lean due to too much air vs. fuel... maybe screw the a/f screw to a richer setting? Just throwing ideas out there.... Is the spark plug wet after a few tries and flooded?
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Post by Fox on Mar 23, 2015 17:03:35 GMT -5
Okay so there are three things you need for an engine to run.
1)Spark at the right time 2)Fuel/air mixture at the proper ratio 3)Compression
Spark:
Lets assume that's okay.
Fuel:
I looked at pics again and it looks like you bought a new carb so it should be okay.
Compression:
Work the kick start lever with your hand. Does it fight you fairly strongly and then get easy and repeat fight/easy/fight/easy or does the fight feel weak or non-existent?
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Post by lonewolfncubs on Mar 23, 2015 18:46:26 GMT -5
Again, thanks you guys, it finally turned on! What I did was take it outside and remove the exhaust pipe and put my motorcycle muffler over the port and turn it on, and I did use a sock and covered the carb and it cranked over, at first it was high rpm then it started to idle lower then I put the oem muffler back on and it would not turn over, removed it again and turn on, all lights work, signal relay works, throttle works! So is there something I can do to this muffler or do I end up having to buy another muffler? oh I even put back the filter and it still turned on!
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Post by Fox on Mar 23, 2015 19:01:40 GMT -5
Cool it runs! So the muffler was/is plugged up. That's a new one for me. I have had a few 2 stroke mufflers full of oil but never a plugged up one. Some kind of animal or insect must have gone in there and set up shop. You can try blasting compressed air into the small end to see if anything comes out like bird nest material or a dead lizard. I have heard of guys putting mufflers on a hot fire/barbecue to burn any oil/foreign invaders to a crisp.
Coat hanger?
Hit it with a rubber hammer to maybe dislodge whatever is in there?
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Post by 90GTVert on Mar 23, 2015 21:25:49 GMT -5
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Post by Fox on Mar 24, 2015 17:03:40 GMT -5
I expected an update before now... I really wanna know what was in that pipe. Maybe we should start a pool.
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