Turbo?

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Jun 30, 2016 18:45:11 GMT -5 ryan_ott said:

Do I really want to get involved in this debate not really. But may years ago (10-12) I built an electric supercharger/ turbo from the compressor wheel of a turbo attached to an electric rc car motor(7.2v) and ran it off of 12 volts it did make 2-3 psi but could not run long before the brushes overheated. Is it possible yes with the right motor.

2-3 psi boost will not make up for the drag placed upon the charging system.  Bigger motor for more boost?  More drag, etc., etc.

Bill

[ryan_ott]

Not getting involved:(

[Chris Cristini]

 I suppose in a perfect world electric would be like a belt driven supercharger there are actual echargers out there but they are not practical I should have not said impossible but extremely impractical. Now the first actual echarger I have seen that worked produced 4PSI above atmospheric pressure of 14.7 PSI at sea level it was made for very short bursts to over come the actual turbo lag remember you also have to overcome the CFM pulled by the engine. The other Pic is the dyson digital motor which I could see maybe working on a scoot with a super capacitor bank that charges off of the scoot when charged you could discharge it all in to the supercharger to give you bursts that would give some advantage but never as efficient as a turbocharger that uses otherwise waisted exhaust to turn the turbine. Also that tiny vacuum motor pulls like 800 Watts at 104.000 RPM lol.

[190mech]

I'm a turbo fan,but they only work well in certain applications..Not my cup of tea,have seen belt drive superchargers made from old automotive smog pumps,as with all superchargers it takes a lot of power to run them,but with the right design they will out power a non boosted engine.A 2 stroke engine properly tuned will run off and hide from all this 4T stuff!(I just had to add that!! )

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Jun 30, 2016 19:24:08 GMT -5 190mech said:

I'm a turbo fan,but they only work well in certain applications..Not my cup of tea,have seen belt drive superchargers made from old automotive smog pumps,as with all superchargers it takes a lot of power to run them,but with the right design they will out power a non boosted engine.A 2 stroke engine properly tuned will run off and hide from all this 4T stuff!(I just had to add that!! )

Yes, they will hide because they know they will be beaten...well...sure they might be a bit faster...well..ok..a lot faster but...4T's still sound better...so there, ha ha.


Bill

[spaz12]

2T(wice)
Twice the power
Twice the fun

[just1artist]

Ever thought about compressed oxygen shot? 😉

[jeff84]

if you going that rout might as well just use a no2 setup. a wet shot is much less likely to ruin the engine than a dry shot

[Chris Cristini]

This is cool

[niz76]

In the end the ultimate answer to power is probably gonna be electric + CVT. Instant torque. Endless RPM's. Some day the battery technology will catch up and put electric into the forefront just like it did in the R/C world. ;P

[Chris Cristini]

Agreed I hate to say it but an electric motor the same size of 90CC 2T would be insane.

[gsx600racer]

Jul 31, 2016 21:51:51 GMT -5 Chris Cristini said:

This is cool

Yup, looks cool. Iv chimed in previews threads about this topics and always wanted to see the dyno #'s.

To go through all that work to set up and tune to make a PSI gauge a move few pounds with little to no performance gains just a.......

I know I am a Debbie downer, but this is a give and take scenario, and so far its been more take than give when comes to HP gains.

[Chris Cristini]

I think its more for novelty lol.

[stoneforth]

Jun 30, 2016 19:30:38 GMT -5 PirateLabs said:

4T's still sound better...so there, ha ha.


Bill

 That's sarcasm right?

[stoneforth]

Jul 31, 2016 22:19:16 GMT -5 gsx600racer said:

so far its been more take than give when comes to HP gains.

Scooter guys are use to that