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Post by Senna1Rossi on Jan 3, 2017 16:27:55 GMT -5
Hmmm... why do yous youts think that there aren't any OFF-ROAD type scoots?? I suppose there are some models that could venture off road for a bit, but nothing that's really "Dual-Sport", or "ADV" type in the scooter market.
Why do you think this is?
And, what model is the most OFF-ROAD-able currently. Seems like the Yamaha Zuma is the closest for doing some minor off-road treks...
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Post by Senna1Rossi on Jan 3, 2017 16:30:23 GMT -5
they should make these... heh
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Post by niz76 on Jan 3, 2017 17:10:04 GMT -5
I'm getting close to finishing up a "Dirt Scoot" that I've been building based on an Adly Jet frame (which is almost identical to a Jog frame). Haven't had time to make a build thread on it yet!
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Post by Senna1Rossi on Jan 3, 2017 17:31:41 GMT -5
^^ cOOL!
Are you gonna put knobby tires on 'er??
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Post by niz76 on Jan 3, 2017 18:30:03 GMT -5
^^ cOOL! Are you gonna put knobby tires on 'er?? Yep! I actually already ordered a set from Revzilla but they're a bit too small so I'll need to exchange for a different set...
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Post by humanshield on Jan 3, 2017 18:57:04 GMT -5
I suppose the basic answer to the OP would be that off roading would require better frame structure. Especially the front. I don't think street scooters were meant to handle the stresses of off road abuse. The frame is too thin and the geometry wasn't designed for high stress impacts like you often get off-roading. Brent and a few others have added stiffners that help.
The weight and complexity of the CVT bouncing around might be another issue. Just guesses though.
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Post by Senna1Rossi on Jan 3, 2017 19:02:19 GMT -5
Nice, niz. nice and cheap too. looking forward to how your off-roader scoot's gonna come oot!
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Post by larrball on Jan 3, 2017 19:17:08 GMT -5
I know it's not truly a scooter but the ROKON comes to mind. www.rokon.com/
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Post by humanshield on Jan 3, 2017 19:19:58 GMT -5
Agreed. Very nice Niz. Looks like a fun project and you've put a lot of work into it.
Any thoughts on bracing the frame?
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Post by aeroxbud on Jan 3, 2017 19:26:22 GMT -5
One of the biggest problems with scooters off road is the lack of foot pegs. When it gets seriously muddy even with bear claw's foot pegs its slippery, let alone foot boards.
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Post by aeroxbud on Jan 3, 2017 19:32:26 GMT -5
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Post by niz76 on Jan 3, 2017 19:48:18 GMT -5
These are the tires I need! Knobbies in 130/90/10, 120/90/10 seem to be hard to come by. I also see they went with the Technigas Silent Pro exhaust. After much deliberation between that and a Malossi Wild Lion exhaust, I ordered the Wild Lion for my "Dirt Scoot".
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Post by 190mech on Jan 3, 2017 19:50:41 GMT -5
Lack of an upper triple tree to support the forks would not go well in rough riding,,a high pipe would be needed too which would need to be fastened to the engine/cvt and not the frame,,regearing would be costly compared to a simple front sprocket change.Spagetti strength frame as humanshield spoke of too,,
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Post by FrankenMech on Jan 3, 2017 20:00:46 GMT -5
Scooters are usually considered to be vehicles with a 'step through' frame. Off roading in one would be like trying to off road on one of those 1960's 'Girls' bikes with the step thru frame for wearing a dress. Those things weren't any good for even peddling hard. The frame would twist around bad. Any rough riding would end with the frame folded up.
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Post by eclark5483 on Jan 3, 2017 21:41:54 GMT -5
I think any scoot that gets close to "bobber" status is probably the ones most close to offroad use. My thoughts are.. if it runs well as a bobber, it will run well off road.
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