Jog Super zr

[nanaki]

Hi all, I've just started getting into scooters lately and have read up the threads in the form. Got to say some very nice information available and very cool seeing everyone's builds. Just reading about everyone's builds gives me inspiration for my own. I currently have a 2007 Yamaha jog cv50, it's the one with the emissions control . Oh btw I'm from New Zealand. From what I've read only Australia and New Zealand and japanese got these jogs. Anyway to my point ive been browsing trademe ( pretty much new Zealand's eBay) for jog parts and seeing what I can find, came across a 1996 YAMAHA jog super zr. From what I've read these scooters come with factory 7.2hp engine? I'm wondering if anyone has any information about these? As I'm probably wanting to ditch my current jog and buy that one instead.

[nanaki]

[nanaki]

Here are some photos from the listing. The bike is deregistered but I'm thinking I can swap the engine over into my current jog. It's done 37000kms so fairly old while this one has only done 8200 according to the seller.

[tsimi]

What additional information do you want to know regarding that Super Jog ZR?
As you already mentioned it could be the one with 7.2 hp unless it is a SA13J model which has "only" 6.8 hp

Here a short overview:

3YK engine, type 1 - 6 (JOG Z, JOG EX, Super JOG Z) has 7 hp.
3YK engine type 7 (Super JOG ZR) has 7.2 hp (unless it is the SA13J (3YKB) which has 6.8 hp).

The CV50 comes with 2 types of engines. The 5BM and the 5SU, both putting out around 6.5-6.8 hp. You say yours has the emission stuff installed which is most likely a 5SU engine.
The CV50 engines have the angled reed block which you should keep in mind when purchasing an after market reed block or intake for the carburetor.

The Super Jog ZR engine on the other hand has a "normal" reed block and a regular type intake which widens your choice of after market reed blocks and intakes since those are the same as used in a Yamaha Zuma or Yamaha Aerox engine.

I personally would try to get the Super Jog ZR and keep the CV50. If that is no option then go for the Super Jog ZR.

Here a couple links to some threads that might interest you.

Jog-Mania

5BM engine

Reed block comparison

70cc Polini Sport install

Acceleration Problem [solved at the end]

[spaz12]

Dec 5, 2017 6:26:26 GMT -5 tsimi said:

What additional information do you want to know regarding that Super Jog ZR?
As you already mentioned it could be the one with 7.2 hp unless it is a SA13J model which has "only" 6.8 hp

Here a short overview:

3YK engine, type 1 - 6 (JOG Z, JOG EX, Super JOG Z) has 7 hp.
3YK engine type 7 (Super JOG ZR) has 7.2 hp (unless it is the SA13J (3YKB) which has 6.8 hp).

The CV50 comes with 2 types of engines. The 5BM and the 5SU, both putting out around 6.5-6.8 hp. You say yours has the emission stuff installed which is most likely a 5SU engine.
The CV50 engines have the angled reed block which you should keep in mind when purchasing an after market reed block or intake for the carburetor.

The Super Jog ZR engine on the other hand has a "normal" reed block and a regular type intake which widens your choice of after market parts since those are the same as used in a Yamaha Zuma or Yamaha Aerox engine.

I personally would try to get the Super Jog ZR and keep the CV50. If that is no option then go for the Super Jog ZR.

Here a couple links to some threads that might interest you.

Jog-Mania

5BM engine

Reed block comparison

70cc Polini Sport install

Acceleration Problem [solved at the end]

Tsimi, I'm on my phone, but the cvt cover in that photo looks like the deep ones that are so common on the Jog motors, not like the shallow covers on the Aerox and Zuma motor. But again, I'm on my phone and totally wrong.

[tsimi]

spaz12

It is a Jog engine.
I was just referring to the reed block and intake. I corrected my post above to avoid misunderstandings.

[spaz12]

Dec 5, 2017 16:40:10 GMT -5 tsimi said:

spaz12

It is a Jog engine.
I was just referring to the reed block and intak3. I corrected my post above to avoid misunderstandings.

Ahh, okay

[nanaki]

Dec 5, 2017 6:26:26 GMT -5 tsimi said:

What additional information do you want to know regarding that Super Jog ZR?
As you already mentioned it could be the one with 7.2 hp unless it is a SA13J model which has "only" 6.8 hp

Here a short overview:

3YK engine, type 1 - 6 (JOG Z, JOG EX, Super JOG Z) has 7 hp.
3YK engine type 7 (Super JOG ZR) has 7.2 hp (unless it is the SA13J (3YKB) which has 6.8 hp).

The CV50 comes with 2 types of engines. The 5BM and the 5SU, both putting out around 6.5-6.8 hp. You say yours has the emission stuff installed which is most likely a 5SU engine.
The CV50 engines have the angled reed block which you should keep in mind when purchasing an after market reed block or intake for the carburetor.

The Super Jog ZR engine on the other hand has a "normal" reed block and a regular type intake which widens your choice of after market reed blocks and intakes since those are the same as used in a Yamaha Zuma or Yamaha Aerox engine.

I personally would try to get the Super Jog ZR and keep the CV50. If that is no option then go for the Super Jog ZR.

Here a couple links to some threads that might interest you.

Jog-Mania

5BM engine

Reed block comparison

70cc Polini Sport install

Acceleration Problem [solved at the end]

Thanks for the reply how can you tell the difference between the 7.2hp one and 7hp? Are there obvious clues on the scooter to check? Done Google search online and there isn't much information regarding the super zr, looks cool though with the brembo brakes.

I've spent the last week going through the jog mania thread, very interesting read and you're scooters look very cool. 96 pages is a lot though haha

I have messaged the seller about the job super zr just waiting for a reply, it's on for auction for 150 atm complete bike with key however deregistered, it doesn't run atm but the seller has said why will see how it goes.

Regarding the jog cv50, that's my current ride, just used as a daily, however bought some parts for it other day (daytona cdi, kitaco power drive variator )so will see how it goes once those parts arrive.

[nanaki]

Here is a pic of my CV50 jog, stock atm only thing changed is the rear shock for my fat *** haha

[tsimi]

Yeah, I know 96 pages is a lot. Most of it is off topic talk though. You can just skip those pages.

Here another thread.

49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/10805/preparation-painting-scooter

What does the frame number on the Super Jog ZR say?
If you ask me 7 or 7.2 ain't much difference. If you consider the 4 poke guys drive with 2.5 hp around, lol.

[nanaki]

Dec 5, 2017 18:42:56 GMT -5 tsimi said:

Yeah, I know 96 pages is a lot. Most of it is off topic talk though. You can just skip those pages.

Here another thread.

49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/10805/preparation-painting-scooter

What does the frame number on the Super Jog ZR say?
If you ask me 7 or 7.2 ain't much difference. If you consider the 4 poke guys drive with 2.5 hp around, lol.

I haven't been able to view the scoot yet, so not sure about the frame. Yeah you're right .2hp is not going to make much of a difference. The auction ends in a couple of days so I'll keep my eye on it and see if it goes for cheap. 

[tsimi]

If the frame number starts with something like SA13J it's a 7hp if it says something like 3YK then it has 7.2hp

[nanaki]

Picked up the Jog Zr today. Looks alot rougher in in person than the pictures. Most of the panels are quite old but seemed like the previous owner did some work to it. Can see its got an aftermarket cdi, wonder what other goodies it might have

Over the christmas holidays when I have work off will be stripping the scooter and try and see if I can make the engine run.

I know its a stupid question, but any idea where the battery sits in this Jog? the panels are a bit different to my cv50 jog.

[tsimi]

Oh man I can't understand why people treat those scoots so bad. It hurts to see that. Scooter abuse at its finest.

Hopefully it is in better hands now.

From the sticker label under the seat it looks like a 7.2 hp Jog. To be 100% sure you'll have to remove the rectangular shaped small cover near the foot rest area and look at the frame number.

To get to the battery you have to loosen 2 bolts inside the seat compartment and then pull the battery out from the side.

Check here. Use translater tool.

skypen.blue/165374073-html/

It has a POSH after market CDI and he removed the airbox snorkel already. Maybe he installed a BBK (big bore kit) and seized it? Also check the carburetor jets and the CVT.

[nanaki]

Yeah that could be a possibility , when i let the fuel out of the carb, the fuel was green? Take it must of been really old... Lucky the fuel tank is dry so i didn't have to drain that. Took the carb out (mikuni) and going to take it apart and give it a clean. Yeah it does hurt the state of the panels are pretty bad there's rivets and screws in places it shouldn't be.

I think i found where the battery sits, in the spot under the seat? Having a look at the wiring there's a few looms that haven't been connected and i can't seem to find the other cable for the battery( there's no battery in there btw). I'll take some pics when i get a chancr, I've take most of the panels off.