taotao or other clone owner, electrical question ?

[br4inl3ss]

hi all.
im preparing a list of parts to fix the most important thing to make mine street legal, and those are the running light and front lower turn signals.
the conenctor for those turn signals seems to be up top, and the wire on the turn signal assy are clearly not long enought to go up there. 

am i missing something, or its missing an extansion or patch harness or whatever you call it ?
couldnt find it on official parts website for mine ( scootterre.com/boutique/en/scooter-parts/bistro-50cc-2018-2020-c75c251/ .
so i checked for taotao since they're 90% the same, but couldnt find anything either.

[aeroxbud]

Perhaps it's not designed to use the lower turn signals. Different markets have different requirement for lighting.
I know some of the other Japanese scooters have just blank lights where the turn signals on yours are too. Then they have the wider ones on the bars.
You should only need one working set.

[br4inl3ss]

i found it. i'm just an idiot.
the wires comes with the turn signal assy its not a seperate thing to buy.

starting with the ones in the front then next pay ill do the ones under the handlebar cover.

[GrumpyUnk]

You do not need to have two sets of functional turn signals, one will do. You may find the flasher that makes them blink ill work to quickly if you have two sets of lights connected. Or not if you are using LED bulbs.
tom

[br4inl3ss]

its not NEEDED. its like that from factory. and this scoot will stay as close to stock as possible. excluding engine ofcourse and "personalization" stuff. but it had 2 set of fron turn signal, it will have its 2 oem set.

[aeroxbud]

Mar 26, 2024 21:57:49 GMT -5 br4inl3ss said:

its not NEEDED. its like that from factory. and this scoot will stay as close to stock as possible. excluding engine ofcourse and "personalization" stuff. but it had 2 set of fron turn signal, it will have its 2 oem set.

But it hasn't got two sets from the factory. 😉

[90GTVert]

Nothing wrong with being seen. Other drivers have a hard enough time seeing us anyway. I don't even know if any of the included signals should pass inspection here. My 150 had the handlebar signals and passed, but it wasn't exactly a thorough inspection and it was all stock. Most motorcycles need the signals some distance apart, which is why you see otherwise sleek sport bikes and stuff with lights on posts sticking out of the side. So, if you were really wanting to be seen the US DOT seems to think that's how it's done. Don't think that's a thing in Europe. My TMAX has post mounts and the Euro model had built in signals for example.

Another thought, purely for customization, is that you could make one set (body prob) running lights and the other turn signals. I think you can get relays now that can make lights function as both. My aftermarket signals are white for running lights and change to flashing amber when the signal is activated. I like them because I think they get a little more attention all of the time.

[br4inl3ss]

Mar 27, 2024 6:10:35 GMT -5 aeroxbud said:

Mar 26, 2024 21:57:49 GMT -5 br4inl3ss said:

its not NEEDED. its like that from factory. and this scoot will stay as close to stock as possible. excluding engine ofcourse and "personalization" stuff. but it had 2 set of fron turn signal, it will have its 2 oem set.

But it hasn't got two sets from the factory. 😉

from factory. stealership just do the assembly ( and they shouldnt, trust me   ).<

[br4inl3ss]

Mar 27, 2024 6:46:28 GMT -5 90GTVert said:

Nothing wrong with being seen. Other drivers have a hard enough time seeing us anyway. I don't even know if any of the included signals should pass inspection here. My 150 had the handlebar signals and passed, but it wasn't exactly a thorough inspection and it was all stock. Most motorcycles need the signals some distance apart, which is why you see otherwise sleek sport bikes and stuff with lights on posts sticking out of the side. So, if you were really wanting to be seen the US DOT seems to think that's how it's done. Don't think that's a thing in Europe. My TMAX has post mounts and the Euro model had built in signals for example.

Another thought, purely for customization, is that you could make one set (body prob) running lights and the other turn signals. I think you can get relays now that can make lights function as both. My aftermarket signals are white for running lights and change to flashing amber when the signal is activated. I like them because I think they get a little more attention all of the time.

not sure that's legal here. 
i did not know about those relay ??
any info ??
i only knew about led bulb doing this. they're called switchback.
wanted those for my dakota. didnt happen.

your aftermarket signal are exactly how bar end signal works. white running light and amber turn signal.

[90GTVert]

They're out there, but they're around $100 for any that I saw. I didn't realize they were that much. Here's one on amazon, but you can find others.
amzn.to/3U3XGdP

[br4inl3ss]

thanks. thats a cool shit !
its so expensive for what it is wow.

[br4inl3ss]

while i have you here, any idea why when i print the gasket model ( www.49ccscoot.com/Gaskets/GY650-CrankcaseCover-WM.pdf ) its NEVER the proper size ?
using standard A4 paper and a Brother laser scanner/printer.
same shit happenend back when i had my mechanical horror scotoer and HP PoS printer.

[90GTVert]

I'll usually find that some print setting is causing a resize, but I tried that one to check and the 5mm graph paper is ~6mm when printed at 100% scale. When that happens I change scale to make it match ruler or graph paper reference size. I adjusted to 84% scale and it prints out at 5mm so it should be OK but I'd check that fit thoroughly before assembling.

I don't really know why this happens. I learned from the start that I would scan stuff and I could cut the scans to not show the full page, but could not resize before adding to a PDF. That works most of the time for printing for me, but I guess it's not foolproof.

If that can't be made to work, then you can go with traditional gasket making methods :
49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/2250/base-gasket-spacer-fabrication

[br4inl3ss]

yeah thats what i do since i'm 15yo. and i'm 37 so thats a long time since i do that lol.
corn flakes cardboard box gasket FOR LIFE !
on over 70 repair with that i have yet to find a failure. my yamaha maxim 750 has been using base gasket like that for about 9 years now. if anyone tell me it doesnt work or its crap, ima start laughing and turn away.

4 stroke only tho.

[GrumpyUnk]

One setting that I think may mess up sizing is the 'fit to page' selection. The printer will expand/contract whatever it is printing to use as much of the page as possible. That would definitely allow the printer the freedom to do its thing... and change the size you have so carefully selected. When expanding, I thought some images had a square alongside the image. No matter how big/small you make your print, if the square is turned into a rectangle, with two sides unequal in length to the other two, it is no longer square and has been distorted in the direction W or H that is the longer/shorter. All 4 sides must be the same for the expanded/contracted image to be the proper shape. 'fit to page' does not care about distortion is the point of this post...
tom