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Post by ryan_ott on Feb 26, 2016 6:40:23 GMT -5
That place looks like so much fun. No Dio parts what gives... That one pipe almost looks like a burial?
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Post by aeroxbud on Feb 26, 2016 7:14:10 GMT -5
What a cool shop. Could spend hours in there. Japan does these sort of shops so well. Have seen a few car shops like this with everything you could ever want from new to used
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Post by tsimi on Feb 26, 2016 7:47:15 GMT -5
Lucass2T1st one is a Chameleon Factory pipe 3rd one is a RS Zero Racing Pipe both are around $150 used! for that price I can almost get a Yasuni R new. Pipes in Japan were always expensive. The 3rd one is not produced anymore by that maker. But as Ryan already mentioned the Burial one looks very similar and there are two other makers that build a very similar design pipe. The 3rd one is the exact same pipe from that Monster Jog that I posted a while ago. oldgeek spaz12 ryan_ott aeroxbudGuys I also could spend days! in there looking through all that stuff. That company is popular here and is named "Upgarage Riders" they also have the exact same style store but for cars and car parts called simply "Upgarage". They have stores all over the country even near Tokyo. Sometimes you won't find anything interesting but sometimes you find really good stuff new or used. Every time I am in there I tell my co-workers, if the guys from the Forum would see this now they would go nuts. Wish you all were here to share such moments.
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Post by Lucass2T on Feb 26, 2016 8:06:51 GMT -5
I think its super awesome Japan has it's very own market for aftermarket parts which i have never heard of! Everytime i see parts i haven't seen before!
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Post by tsimi on Feb 26, 2016 8:08:47 GMT -5
Lucass2T If you want to look closer at those pipes here an raw image of it. (not resized) You are welcome to come and visit anytime. I got more then enough space. So you think the 1st and 3rd pipe would be interesting to buy? I wanted to wait till summer and get me a Yasuni R but if you tell me that those pipes look good and might pack some punch just by looking at their structure and dimensions then I might as well grab one of those. ryan_ott I am sure they got more Dio stuff there I just can't spot them as I can the with the Jog stuff. I can see Jog stuff right away but I have not much knowledge about Dios and therefore I maybe can't see all the good stuff.
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Post by Lucass2T on Feb 26, 2016 13:10:15 GMT -5
Lucass2T If you want to look closer at those pipes here an raw image of it. (not resized) You are welcome to come and visit anytime. I got more then enough space. So you think the 1st and 3rd pipe would be interesting to buy? I wanted to wait till summer and get me a Yasuni R but if you tell me that those pipes look good and might pack some punch just by looking at their structure and dimensions then I might as well grab one of those. ryan_ott I am sure they got more Dio stuff there I just can't spot them as I can the with the Jog stuff. I can see Jog stuff right away but I have not much knowledge about Dios and therefore I maybe can't see all the good stuff. Hey Tsimi if i ever plan to come to Japan you'll be the first to know! About those pipe...yeah by looking at them they look like quality parts! Welds look good, no cheap pipes probably...especially that one with the blue silencer. Going by image alone: The overall shape, cone angles and number of cones point out they're probably very nice exhausts for any sport-midrace 70. The Yasuni R is an excellent exhaust for any iron sport 70.
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Post by tsimi on Feb 27, 2016 6:42:11 GMT -5
Just installed the new big reed block from Cameleon Factory. Engine starts and idles good. Tomorrow I will take her for a spin and see how it goes. Curious to see what the difference will be in comparison to the KN one.
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Post by tsimi on Feb 28, 2016 7:04:38 GMT -5
Guys I am clueless. I just can't get past the 8000-8200rpm mark. Either my tacho is broken or something else is very wrong here. Today I have tried to adjust the CVT from pure stock to after market to Polini OR still same max. rpms. I have even gone so far that I swapped back in the stock torque driver and stock air filter sponge inside the airbox. I have tried all 3 reed blocks that I have. 2 different CDIs. Still no changes. The only thing that strikes me a bit odd is no matter what tuning setup I choose the max rpms are always the same. The only thing left to do is either replace the tacho, put back the 4stroke stuff (AN) into the carb or open the top end and check if something is wrong with the BBK. Otherwise the Scooter drives really good and I have good response, good acceleration and good torque. Top speed could be better but it is acceptable but I never seen anything beyond 77km/h even with the Polini OR.
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Post by 90GTVert on Feb 28, 2016 8:16:44 GMT -5
Even if the tach is wrong, I'd think you'd see more difference with all the stuff you've tried and possibly hear that it's revving higher than it is. If you really think it's the tach, there are programs that can analyze the sound in a video of it and give an estimate of RPM. I think there are apps for that now. Not really sure how well it works in all cases, but it could be a free check if you're concerned. I know I tried some program that did it for free long ago, not sure about the apps.
The exhaust has never been changed IIRC. You've only seen higher RPM pre-BBK, or am I mistaken? Maybe the pipe doesn't work well with the BBK at higher revs?
I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't limited that I couldn't make rev more with lighter weights though. Are you totally unable to make it rev higher, or it just won't make power above where you're at?
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Post by tsimi on Feb 28, 2016 10:06:21 GMT -5
Even if the tach is wrong, I'd think you'd see more difference with all the stuff you've tried and possibly hear that it's revving higher than it is. If you really think it's the tach, there are programs that can analyze the sound in a video of it and give an estimate of RPM. I think there are apps for that now. Not really sure how well it works in all cases, but it could be a free check if you're concerned. I know I tried some program that did it for free long ago, not sure about the apps. The exhaust has never been changed IIRC. You've only seen higher RPM pre-BBK, or am I mistaken? Maybe the pipe doesn't work well with the BBK at higher revs? I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't limited that I couldn't make rev more with lighter weights though. Are you totally unable to make it rev higher, or it just won't make power above where you're at? Reading back a few pages in this thread, the last time I had it rev past 9000 was on January 30. After that I installed the AU parts on the PHBG carb and since then it seems like it went bad. I could make it rev past 8200rpm by using very, very light rollers which would make the scooter run like in empty gear do to over revving. I tried to use exact same CVT settings that where good in the past but doing so did not make it any better at all. Stock Variator with 3x5+3x6(33g) or 3x5+3x5.5 (31.5g) with my Kevlar belt should give me easy 9400-9800rpms but I get only 7200rpms. I used the same pipe since the very beginning. Before and after the BBK. Even after the BBK install I had hit 9000+rpms multiple times. I could try to find a AN bushing and put back the 4T stuff into the carb and see what happens.
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Post by 90GTVert on Feb 28, 2016 10:10:19 GMT -5
If you're getting the air/fuel ratios right in your tuning, then I can't see why the engine cares what atomizer and bushing is in the carb at that point. That said, if you have a clear point where revs dropped and it was only that change, I suppose it's hard to say it's a bad idea to try.
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Post by tsimi on Feb 28, 2016 10:36:02 GMT -5
If you're getting the air/fuel ratios right in your tuning, then I can't see why the engine cares what atomizer and bushing is in the carb at that point. That said, if you have a clear point where revs dropped and it was only that change, I suppose it's hard to say it's a bad idea to try. That is why I like to write down everything in this thread so that I can re-read the stuff I have done and troubleshoot as I do now. Just checked my PHBG carb parts box and I still got the AN stuff undamaged. (Atomizer + bushing) I have reverted nearly everything except for the carb parts. I could go back to a #30 slider and W9 needle first and if that doesn't do it then install the AN stuff. If that also won't do it then I have no choice but to open the top end and look what is going on. If it should come to that then I might aswell install the Malossi MHR Rep cylinder. Do you have any other idea as to what might cause the drop in rpms at WOT? Worn down piston rings maybe?
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Post by 90GTVert on Feb 28, 2016 10:44:48 GMT -5
I'd think if it were due to a compression issue, you'd also notice poor performance all around. I've had top ends get worn and not pull to the same RPM because they don't have the power anymore, but they were obviously weak at any RPM.
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Post by Lucass2T on Feb 28, 2016 13:15:14 GMT -5
Something else is wrong...you're overseeing something or aren't able to detect something. Backtracking your steps resulted in nothing...so try new things or just ditch the tach and stop focussing too much on that. That tach is messing with your brain. Just ditch it and tune on feeling.
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Post by spaz12 on Feb 28, 2016 14:55:20 GMT -5
What direction is the bushing pointed?
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