Jog-Mania

[tsimi]

I have that tool and I tried to use it but like I said there is nothing except a pointy pick that can be push in between the spring and clutch pad.

Next time I have the clutch removed I'll take some pics for better understanding.

Or maybe someone is so kind to take a video where that tool has been successfully used.

[Lucass2T]

Aug 17, 2016 6:21:16 GMT -5 tsimi said:

I have that tool and I tried to use it but like I said there is nothing except a pointy pick that can be push in between the spring and clutch pad.

Next time I have the clutch removed I'll take some pics for better understanding.

Or maybe someone is so kind to take a video where that tool has been successfully used.

Hmm, works fine for me. I use it on every clutch and works everytime. Maybe you're using it wrong?

[spaz12]

Aug 17, 2016 6:21:16 GMT -5 tsimi said:

I have that tool and I tried to use it but like I said there is nothing except a pointy pick that can be push in between the spring and clutch pad.

Next time I have the clutch removed I'll take some pics for better understanding.

Or maybe someone is so kind to take a video where that tool has been successfully used.

I have seen a video of someone installing springs with that tool. I'll try to find it later today.

[tsimi]

Just curious, do you guys run high octane fuel or regular?
Or when is it time to switch to high octane and when not? Look at my scooter specs in the signature and tell me what I should be running.

Blue Jog uses stock oil pump red Jog uses premix 40:1

[spaz12]

Well, the compression ratio according to Malossi on the Rep cylinder is 13.8:1, which isn't super high so you can try regular gas and see if it knocks. Over here though the price difference between regular and premium is about 20 cents for a gallon so I always get the premium.

[birdman]

Premium in the states is low grade in Japan. So I think your ok either way tsimi.

[tsimi]

I read somewhere that our regular fuel is 90 octane and the premium is 98-100 octane. The price difference is very small between the two so I might as well try premium once.

[Lucass2T]

Is there a different way in measuring octane number just like Europe and American where they use RON and PON? In Germany they have 101RON octane at the pump. In my hometown the local gasstation sells 105 octane racing fuel.

[tsimi]

Not sure if they still do but they used to sell Sunoco GTplus 110 octane racing fuel here for 48000yen for 60l drum.

Today I'll have to fuel up my red Jog again, I'll ask the gas station staff if they have more details on this octane stuff.

[Lucass2T]

If you use the fast jog only now and then, use fuel with as high octane as possible and adjust compression to that. But don't go buying hard to come by fuel, drums or large quatities since fuel ages and after a few months it's already 'old' and useless for performance applications.

[tsimi]

Lucass2T

no worries I am not rich enough to buy such large quantities of expensive racing fuel which is anyway far beyond my Scooter level. I'll just use premium fuel on my next refill and see how that goes.

[Jwhood]

tsimi I seen a picture in your build thread where it looks like you turned down a clutch bell,was your aftermarket clutch bell not sitting all the way on the clutch pads? Cause I'm getting that on mine about 1/8 of my clutch pads are not being grabbed by the bell,how much did you take off the inner part so it fit right??Also is that a motoforce clutch bell cause that's what I'm trying too make fit correctly

[tsimi]

Jwhood

That was not my clutch bell that one was Lucass2T one. He had a friend remove some of the inner clutch bell to fit it better on the clutch.


I think he used a Motoforce bell which is a copy of the Malossi clutch bell.

[Lucass2T]

Aug 19, 2016 7:37:48 GMT -5 tsimi said:

Jwhood

That was not my clutch bell that one was Lucass2T one. He had a friend remove some of the inner clutch bell to fit it better on the clutch.


I think he used a Motoforce bell which is a copy of the Malossi clutch bell.

Its a DMP bell actually...which is I think exactly the same as a motoforce bell. Anyway yeah..Tsimi covered the rest pretty well.

[nelson]

If you are trying to get the bell to fit closer to the clutch you may run into a problem. There is a "nub" that has the splines inside of it and that is likely why it wont fit closer. If you go too close your bell will make contact with the big clutch nut and its not good. No more slipper clutch, ask me how i know or am i misunderstanding what you are trying to do?