Project scrappydogscooters TaoTao .vs Zuma 125
Jul 30, 2016 2:16:21 GMT -5
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Post by eclark5483 on Jul 30, 2016 2:16:21 GMT -5
So why not do a product review using components from just one seller compared to a Zuma? That's kind of hard to do unless you have the cash to spend buying scoot parts all day long. Yeah, I'm not THAT rich, but I can tell you what kind of performance to expect from products you buy from certain merchants on THIS purchase.
Every part bought is either from scrappydogscooters.com or is equivalent to the same product they are offering.
I had to make an exception because the fan, A9 camshaft, and gears were not in stock. Otherwise, everything else was purchased from scrappydogscooters.com
All parts listed can be found at: www.scrappydogscooters.com/139QMB_50cc_Performance.html
OR ALTERNATELY AT: chinesescooterparts.com/product-category/139qmb-50cc-performance/
I am listing them by name heading on that page.
The scooter being used for this upgrade review, is the cheapest scooter on the market you are going to find.
The TaoTao ATM50-A1.
The best price you will find on a TaoTao is going to be from:
www.provenpowersports.com/collections/taotao-scooters/products/taotao-adult-50cc-gas-moped-scooter-atm50-a1?
Your can actually get them cheaper then $649.95 by buying several of them. So keep "HIS & HERS" .vs 1 Zuma in the costs here.
The pink TaoTao I own was 100% my upgrading, this scooter however, will be put together by SS Collision & Cycleworks here in Spencer. Yeah, I COULD have gotten my lazy ass up, went into my garage, and did this all myself. But as an average Joe consumer, I feel it is my duty to shell out some extra money and have the AWESOME team at SS Cycleworks do what needs to be done and give me the labor bill. This will help people realize the SAVINGS involved in just doing it yourself .vs paying a mechanic to do the upgrades .vs buying a brand new Zuma 125.
Why the ZUMA 125? Well, honestly, because of the price involved into the performance you get out of it.
I can't do a side by side comparison, but I guess I challenge one to do their own investigating to what kinds of performance people are getting out of the Zuma 125.
The bike build reviewed here can realistically be considered 139QMB 49/50cc class with performance upgrades .vs Zuma 125.
Going by my DAUGHTERS ATM50-A1 as the base I can tell you out of the crate, the ATM50-A1 kind of sucks. The speedometer is way off, there is a bit of hesitation off the start, the mirrors are too short, the key kind of sticks, just some minor, but easily fixable annoyances that should cost you no more then a grand total of $50 to fix yourself.
Top speed for my 115 lb kid, is 37 mph. Top speed for me, is 32 mph. Now, I'm a heavy guy, so any findings I post, you can probably expect even better results. I weigh in at 330lbs. So whatever I achieve, you can probably expect... in the least... the same results.
The TOP budget here, is the cost of a ZUMA 125. Which, on the Yamaha website, lists it at $3390
So lets begin with parts purchased.
First, is of course the ATM50-A1 from provenpowersports.com
Then the scrappydogscooters.com parts list consisting of:
So total cost so far buying a cheap TaoTao and going pretty much all out and buying up alot of the performance stuff available, is so far coming to $1387.25
$737.30 involved in scrappydog parts
$649.50 buying the scoot
Your cost can be MUCH LOWER. The Turbo cooling fan, and GY6 retrofit oil cooler kit, are NOT AT ALL needed. These are just purchased for "PEACE OF MIND" cooling. So your talking thus far $1250 .vs $3390 on the Zuma? Also, like I said earlier 2 of the parts were EQUIVALENTS, and I'm 100% positive if you hunt around, you will find EVERY PART LISTED at a lower price somewhere else. So it pays to bargain shop if your REALLY on a budget. I'm betting a grand total of about $1,000 will net someone the exact same setup being used. This build cost, is based off of 1 distributor convenience.
So $3390-$1387.25 thus far = savings of $2002.75
A good thrift shopper will be able to piece together 3 OF THESE EXACT SAME SETUPS for the price of 1 ZUMA 125 !!! INVITE GRANDMA TO RIDE TOO!!
So what kind of performance does that $2000 savings get you using all these high dollar upgrade parts? Well.. can't tell you right now... these parts have not been installed yet, because the scooter isn't here yet. I am having it delivered directly to the bike shop and the boys will take all the parts I purchased for them, slap it all together, and hand me a bill. So how much will that savings be with a mechanic doing the work for you?
Anybody care to guess?
Any guesses on what the performance difference will be? Will the TaoTao hit 50 even with my weight? Does a bunch of performance parts REALLY make too much of a difference? Will there be enough savings that I can actually afford "HIS AND HERS" TAOTAO's .vs buying 1 Zuma 125?
The scoot is scheduled for delivery on Wednesday. I told the guys no rush on the build, I know they have other customers who need their vehicles back ASAP. So for the COMPARISON...
Stay tuned.....................
Every part bought is either from scrappydogscooters.com or is equivalent to the same product they are offering.
I had to make an exception because the fan, A9 camshaft, and gears were not in stock. Otherwise, everything else was purchased from scrappydogscooters.com
All parts listed can be found at: www.scrappydogscooters.com/139QMB_50cc_Performance.html
OR ALTERNATELY AT: chinesescooterparts.com/product-category/139qmb-50cc-performance/
I am listing them by name heading on that page.
The scooter being used for this upgrade review, is the cheapest scooter on the market you are going to find.
The TaoTao ATM50-A1.
The best price you will find on a TaoTao is going to be from:
www.provenpowersports.com/collections/taotao-scooters/products/taotao-adult-50cc-gas-moped-scooter-atm50-a1?
Your can actually get them cheaper then $649.95 by buying several of them. So keep "HIS & HERS" .vs 1 Zuma in the costs here.
The pink TaoTao I own was 100% my upgrading, this scooter however, will be put together by SS Collision & Cycleworks here in Spencer. Yeah, I COULD have gotten my lazy ass up, went into my garage, and did this all myself. But as an average Joe consumer, I feel it is my duty to shell out some extra money and have the AWESOME team at SS Cycleworks do what needs to be done and give me the labor bill. This will help people realize the SAVINGS involved in just doing it yourself .vs paying a mechanic to do the upgrades .vs buying a brand new Zuma 125.
Why the ZUMA 125? Well, honestly, because of the price involved into the performance you get out of it.
I can't do a side by side comparison, but I guess I challenge one to do their own investigating to what kinds of performance people are getting out of the Zuma 125.
The bike build reviewed here can realistically be considered 139QMB 49/50cc class with performance upgrades .vs Zuma 125.
Going by my DAUGHTERS ATM50-A1 as the base I can tell you out of the crate, the ATM50-A1 kind of sucks. The speedometer is way off, there is a bit of hesitation off the start, the mirrors are too short, the key kind of sticks, just some minor, but easily fixable annoyances that should cost you no more then a grand total of $50 to fix yourself.
Top speed for my 115 lb kid, is 37 mph. Top speed for me, is 32 mph. Now, I'm a heavy guy, so any findings I post, you can probably expect even better results. I weigh in at 330lbs. So whatever I achieve, you can probably expect... in the least... the same results.
The TOP budget here, is the cost of a ZUMA 125. Which, on the Yamaha website, lists it at $3390
So lets begin with parts purchased.
First, is of course the ATM50-A1 from provenpowersports.com
Then the scrappydogscooters.com parts list consisting of:
- Performance roller polygon sliders 16x13 (x grams) $19.95
- High performance variator $69.95
- Performance exhaust system $114.95
- 80CC BIG BORE KIT $69.95
- 139qmb performance intake manifold $39.95
- 20mm Big Bore performance carburetor $59.95
- PERFORMANCE CDI $19.95
- Red hot high energy GY6 ignition coil $29.95
- CR7 Iridium Spark Plugs $9.95
- GY6 retrofit oil cooler kit $89.95
- Turbo cooling fan $14.95
- HOCA Performance clutch/pulley/bell $117.95
- Performance A9 Camshaft $39.95
- Performance transmission gear set $39.95
So total cost so far buying a cheap TaoTao and going pretty much all out and buying up alot of the performance stuff available, is so far coming to $1387.25
$737.30 involved in scrappydog parts
$649.50 buying the scoot
Your cost can be MUCH LOWER. The Turbo cooling fan, and GY6 retrofit oil cooler kit, are NOT AT ALL needed. These are just purchased for "PEACE OF MIND" cooling. So your talking thus far $1250 .vs $3390 on the Zuma? Also, like I said earlier 2 of the parts were EQUIVALENTS, and I'm 100% positive if you hunt around, you will find EVERY PART LISTED at a lower price somewhere else. So it pays to bargain shop if your REALLY on a budget. I'm betting a grand total of about $1,000 will net someone the exact same setup being used. This build cost, is based off of 1 distributor convenience.
So $3390-$1387.25 thus far = savings of $2002.75
A good thrift shopper will be able to piece together 3 OF THESE EXACT SAME SETUPS for the price of 1 ZUMA 125 !!! INVITE GRANDMA TO RIDE TOO!!
So what kind of performance does that $2000 savings get you using all these high dollar upgrade parts? Well.. can't tell you right now... these parts have not been installed yet, because the scooter isn't here yet. I am having it delivered directly to the bike shop and the boys will take all the parts I purchased for them, slap it all together, and hand me a bill. So how much will that savings be with a mechanic doing the work for you?
Anybody care to guess?
Any guesses on what the performance difference will be? Will the TaoTao hit 50 even with my weight? Does a bunch of performance parts REALLY make too much of a difference? Will there be enough savings that I can actually afford "HIS AND HERS" TAOTAO's .vs buying 1 Zuma 125?
The scoot is scheduled for delivery on Wednesday. I told the guys no rush on the build, I know they have other customers who need their vehicles back ASAP. So for the COMPARISON...
Stay tuned.....................
....make sure they save EVERYTHING from your old setup too. I just recently got a thunder about 2 months ago and this damn thing is incredible stock. Gonna get a gps to really test this thing but its blowing stock atm-50's outta the water around here. Had a guy yesterday ask me to trade him and I laughed so hard. 
Peace bro and break it in right.
