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Post by niz76 on Nov 8, 2016 19:43:09 GMT -5
I voted. I didn't like the choice between crap sandwich or turd burger but I did vote! I chose the crap sandwich btw...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 19:55:29 GMT -5
Our local incumbent senator banned me from his last two public meetings because he kept whining about foodstamps and unemployment, so I asked him about the $65,000 a year in farm welfare he took from the tax payers and which years he met poverty guidelines foodstamp recipients have to meet.
That pretty much sums up partisan politics.
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Post by msnothing on Nov 8, 2016 21:00:08 GMT -5
My state has early voting, so lines are never an issue here. I voted because I really care about some local issues.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 21:08:09 GMT -5
Our local incumbent senator banned me from his last two public meetings because he kept whining about foodstamps and unemployment, so I asked him about the $65,000 a year in farm welfare he took from the tax payers and which years he met poverty guidelines foodstamp recipients have to meet. That pretty much sums up partisan politics. In a "real" free market, NOTHING should be subsidized...not farming, not energy, not medical. They (both sides) have been doing this crap for years and then folks say...well, the free market is not working. It is not a free market if the government can pick winners and losers. (ie This solar company gets subsidized but these others do not) I just want less government and to be able to do what the heck I want to do and for them all to leave me the heck alone. That is all I ask. Bill |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 22:24:11 GMT -5
The only difference between republicans and democrats are the corporations that hold their leash.
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Post by tsimi on Nov 9, 2016 9:34:34 GMT -5
I am not a US citizen and I couldn't care less which of those two fools becomes president. Just don't launch any nukes and don't start WW3 that's all I ask for.
And be glad that you, the people, can choose your president. Here we don't get to vote who's president. The party with the most seats makes that decision and we just have to accept it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 10:40:49 GMT -5
I am not a US citizen and I couldn't care less which of those two fools becomes president. Just don't launch any nukes and don't start WW3 that's all I ask for. And be glad that you, the people, can choose your president. Here we don't get to vote who's president. The party with the most seats makes that decision and we just have to accept it. That, to me, would be unacceptable. You folks should do what we did in 1776. Just my 2 cents. Bill |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 11:02:53 GMT -5
The biggest problem with America is we actually believe a particular party or candidate will save us from our own stupidity.
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Post by maker1to2 on Nov 9, 2016 13:28:05 GMT -5
Yup
Wrote in;
The candidate that can bring back 20 hour work weeks while being able to raise kids have a house and car. I know that is possible now...but making it normal.
To challenge your statement Peascreek..most of the time a group will get you where an individual wouldn't: the reason..yet the full depiction of greatness is to not lose principle. Whether amongst a group or on that road............
Stupidity sometimes equals experimenting without a care!
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Post by msnothing on Nov 9, 2016 17:28:10 GMT -5
Next time I am just going to vote for my dad. At least I believe in him.
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Post by humanshield on Nov 9, 2016 21:13:31 GMT -5
Bill,
Why does Kentucky love Mitch McConnell so much?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 21:25:30 GMT -5
Bill, Why does Kentucky love Mitch McConnell so much? We don't. At least, myself and everyone I know does not. The problem is, as it was this last time as well, we were faced with a flaming liberal commie or we could vote for Mitch, again. No one credible will challenge him because he is so entrenched. I have only two words: Term Limits. Bill |
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Post by humanshield on Nov 9, 2016 21:57:11 GMT -5
ok. I was guessing it was something like that.
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Post by maker1to2 on Nov 9, 2016 22:13:36 GMT -5
Bill, Why does Kentucky love Mitch McConnell so much? We don't. At least, myself and everyone I know does not. The problem is, as it was this last time as well, we were faced with a flaming liberal commie or we could vote for Mitch, again. No one credible will challenge him because he is so entrenched. I have only two words: Term Limits. Bill So next term can we expect someone from left field with a solid foundation in Kentucky to run. Man where is the provoke button..ha raise him up! Tell bra with that good countenance and time on his hand to run...he got to be demanding...willing to kick....if it ain't right (blue collar white collar streets foriegn local for pure principle) You know that dude your girl might say he got a little chip on his shoulder! Awh honey that's just Johnny at work! Plus you might get a mini cannonball run out of it etc etc. Ha ha local freedom at it's best! |
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Post by eclark5483 on Nov 9, 2016 22:27:09 GMT -5
Personally I don't care who the President is (I voted Stein BTW). What concerns me most is the rhetoric about the affordable care act. This "REPEAL AND REPLACE" garbage. Repeal is the easy part, it's the replace part that they don't talk about.
I don't buy insurance from the exchanges, mine is provided by Polaris and is an excellent health care program. The problem is, under the provisions of the ACA, I am allowed to keep my kids (who both have Autism), on my insurance through Polaris till they turn 26 years old. My son has asthma and requires albuterol, symbicort, shit like that, which is covered on my policy. If the ACA is repealed, I will lose coverage for my son. He turns 18 next month. What happens next, is I am then forced to apply for Medicaid (tax payer funded government bullshit)just to get him his medicine. Medicaid does not let you have the better medications that he needs. They make you take some cheap crap that doesn't work well on him. So is that what I can expect from "repeal and have no replacement"? Go from being self sufficient to needing government assistance? I have never used government assistance for my kids, in spite of their special needs. Is repealing a system that lets me keep them off the government teet REALLY better? Is that really what people want?
I guess my situation could be even worse though. If the ACA is repealed, millions of people will lose needed health care that they are currently paying for out of their own pockets. What does the future hold for them? Vouchers? Tax breaks? No health care at all? None of which will do any good.
I have no problem if they wanna scrap all that shit, but god damn it, don't make my son dependent on government just because you have a vendetta against Obama. They need to have a better plan if they wanna repeal, and it really doesn't look like that will be the case.
They talk about selling across state lines, which is about a joke. Credit Card companies do this already. What they do though, is they centralize where there service is out of.. Typically South Dakota. The reason being, is South Dakota's consumer protection laws are completely lax and it allows them to get away with charging as high as a 29.9% interest rate... especially to those who have a lower credit rating. There is no reason to believe that health care would be any different. They'll sell you a cheap useless policy in a state with the worst laws and highest deductibles (probably Florida), and make bank off people's healthcare.
What they need to do, is go to Medicare for all. A simple hike from the 1.6% we currently pay to 3.2% and from the 3.2% that employers pay to 6.4% will save EVERYBODY money. Employers and employees. And will cover every single person in America. Then all they have to do, is let insurance companies sell supplemental policies for use in private practice providers. So you get the best of both world. Free healthcare for all, or an optional private healthcare plan with a preferred provider.
Just think of what it would be costing you for healthcare if you only had to pay 3.2% of your paycheck .vs what you might be paying now for healthcare. Just think of how much your employer pays and the savings it gives them. These type of things affect other things for the company you work for... like profit sharing and wages because of the amount employers spend to insure employees. There is no reason at all we need middle man insurance companies, and our lives should not be dictated by the profits of a shareholder.
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