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Post by c0m1bws on May 29, 2011 18:42:48 GMT -5
Hi as you know i have yamaha bws and i have my licence, but few days ago, i talked with a guy who works in New Brunswick Service and he told me that 49cc scooter dont require licence. He got me confused, so i wanted to check out the truth, because as i know i have my class 9 licence which allows me to operate 50cc motor driven vehicle. Thank You for replayz :) :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stumped:
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Post by 90GTVert on May 29, 2011 20:28:10 GMT -5
If you have a moped it looks like you can get a moped permit.
"A motorized bicycle (moped) is defined by law as a pedal bicycle with a helper motor, electric or gas-powered, capable of a maximum speed of no more than 25 miles per hour on a flat surface. A moped has a maximum displacement of less than 50 cubic centimeters (no more than 1.5 brake horsepower)."
A 49cc scooter wouldn't fall into that category as it reads. THey have a bit of info about motorized scooters, but they are referring to something different...
"A motorized scooter is a miniature motor vehicle. Although it is illegal for these
vehicles to be driven on any public road or sidewalk, except on designated
municipal or county property, motorists must be very alert if these types of vehicles
are present. Motorized scooters are extremely hard to see."
Regardless, if you need a license for a moped, I'd say you must need one for a scooter. Perhaps the same one. :dunno:
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Post by drawkward on May 29, 2011 22:56:41 GMT -5
Bummmmmmmmmmerrrrrrrrrrrr
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Post by Goosey on May 29, 2011 22:58:44 GMT -5
You need to check out your states DMV site, and see if you can find motorcycle laws for where you are. Each state is different. Here in WI, we have to have a valid drivers licence, and register 49cc as a moped.
In some states it isn't registered if 49cc, and no license ...
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Post by reveeen on May 30, 2011 4:30:10 GMT -5
You require a license of some sort, be it a regular car type, or a permit for drivers 14-16 (restricted to 50cc). This keeps drunks off the roads, and gives them something to snatch if you are drunk. No license, pay $180. (impound and tow offense)
You most importantly NEED: insurance. There is no distinction on vehicle type here, the price of a ticket is a quick $1000, go for a second offense $1500, a third $2000, you "get" the idea. (this is an impound and tow offense) It is a good way to build up accident free (hopefully) insurance time before you turn 16 and are trying to insure a car.
You are required to carry proof of insurance, vehicle ownership (title), and your operators permit at all times when operating on a roadway. Can't "be bothered"? $120 each. You MUST wear a helmet.
Noise laws are coming....... thanks to the idiots that drive Harvey Dumbikes locally.
However, there are no vehicle inspections for mopeds/scooters/motorcycles. You are required to show a white light at the front during the day time (build date post 1967).
Restricted electric vehicles are exempt. You get a free pass on 500W, or less, "assisted" vehicles (they MUST have pedals and not exceed 23mph) No license (operators, or vehicle), or insurance, is required. (this is subject to change: I *think* they are waiting to see how many get killed)
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Post by marshinman on May 30, 2011 5:19:59 GMT -5
I live in North Carolina and the law here states that for moped/Scooter riders of 49cc or less a operators license is not required nor is insurance. The only restriction is that you have to be at least 16 years old and it can not exceed 30mph on flat ground. My wife is a insurance agent and we checked into it before purchasing ours. Most of the people you see riding them around here have had the drivers license revoked due to DUI's. So they have developed the name liquor cycle. I just checked and Virginia is the same for their laws on scooters. Here is a link where you can check every state. www.motorscooters.com/scooter_laws.html |
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Post by 90GTVert on May 30, 2011 6:16:31 GMT -5
He said New Brunswick, so I assume he's in NJ. That's where the stuff I posted is from.
In MD you need a valid driver's license. That's it. No insurance required or registration.
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Post by reveeen on May 30, 2011 6:21:45 GMT -5
No, I believe him to be in NB Canada, because he mentions "Service New Brunswick" (the provincial money collecting agency). If that is the case, the requirements (and fines), are as I posted.
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Post by marshinman on May 30, 2011 6:36:30 GMT -5
My bad I didnt catch the New Brunswick.
If he is in the US then the link I posted will help in finding the laws for his area.
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Post by reveeen on May 30, 2011 7:07:09 GMT -5
As a rule, they don't bother you here, but give them an excuse, and they will bury you in fines, and snatch your license until they are paid. An excuse being: doing something dumb, or mouth off to the cops. ALL plates issued here for 50cc and less vehicles carry the "M" prefix (moped). A local hint: 100X the usual number of fines issued here are issued the last week of every month, so, you take it easy the last week of the month and all will be well.
I have yet to be stopped on/in a "M" plated vehicle here ANY time of the day, or night........... I ride 100% legal, though I am guilty of riding "at the pin" most times.
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Post by marshinman on May 30, 2011 7:21:12 GMT -5
They do a similar thing here the last week of the month.
The difference here is that they will set up check points and stop every other vehicle and if you are on a scooter they check for safety and make sure its not above 49cc's.
I got stopped last year on the electric scooter by a state trooper and for some reason he wouldnt believe it was electric until he saw the batteries.
Then all he could say was " Keep it at the legal speed"
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Post by 90GTVert on May 30, 2011 10:27:02 GMT -5
if you are on a scooter they check for safety and make sure its not above 49cc's. How do they do that? I've had them ask me. I told one cop is had a big bore kit, but he just watched me take off into a corner and get up to speed quickly so I figured he must have some clue. Didn't tell him it was 99cc. lol He thought it was pretty cool though. Probably woulda said it's just got some tuning done otherwise. I had 2 or 3 others ask and I just said it's a 49cc. They shined their flashlights onto the motor briefly. All of those times were also a 99cc engine.  I couldn't tell for sure by doing that and I work on 'em constantly. |
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Post by marshinman on May 30, 2011 11:36:16 GMT -5
I got stopped once on the gas scooter and they looked at the exhaust and looked at the motor. We both know that they can just look at it and tell if it is greater than 49cc. I think that all there trying to do is just strike the fear of the law in you so it will make you think twice before some mod to your motor. The electric scooter was quite funny because the officer didnt believe me that it was electric and I even pointed out the rear hub motor and as he said that doesnt show me anything.
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Post by 90GTVert on May 30, 2011 14:29:23 GMT -5
OK. I was mainly wondering if they had a list of engine codes to check or something like that or if maybe they were looking for a 150 since they're commonly ridden as 50s and identifiable at a glance if you know what you're looking at.
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Post by cableguyken on May 30, 2011 20:45:22 GMT -5
The cops here in SC look at teh scooters kick starter...they say MOST of the 150 and 250cc scooters have a forward kick, and all 50cc have a rear kick....so when I get that 250cc motor to put in my 50cc scooter...Ill just turn the kick start pedal around...LOL
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I couldn't tell for sure by doing that and I work on 'em constantly.