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Post by diynuke on Nov 6, 2017 8:56:03 GMT -5
Hey guys i got something fun going on i think ;D I got the scooter for free from a friend and it had all kind of starting issues and the front tire is so bad that when you brake your front tire slips away almost instantly so that's not safe at all. and the main engine mount/subframe has a hole in it so the material is very thin there so i decided to make a ramrod scoot out of it so i will need to weld a load of steel on it to make it safe again and the previous owners thought it would be funny to weld on the back wing/bracket so the fuel tank is stuck in there because it can't go out xD  This was the scooter before i started working on it.  Here i got it stripped so i could work on the frame.  This sticker already gives it some more hp xD I already made a small video about the scoot www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY0eW49GiR4the license plate is temporarily suspended so i do not pay any insurance money now so i have all the time to work on it. I did notice that this scoot didn't have any resistor's in the wire harness or anywhere which is pretty weird but well i guess the lights work via the voltage regulator then altho it would give some more stress to the regulator  i think i will use this headlight since it does look pretty nice and for the rear i have a simple industrial light (the ones that you also can find on the rear of forklifts) i think ill make the airfilter go pretty high and really make it water tight so it won't bog down if i drive thru a big puddle Compression is about 125psi so the cylinder is still alright otherwise it would have been less so yeah i am looking forward to it ;D |
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Post by diynuke on Nov 11, 2017 19:49:03 GMT -5
Okay i got the rear and front light  For the front i still have to think for a few more since this one isnt that bright The rear light is 22w. This is way too much for the rear so i will have to dim it a bit and power it completly for the brake light This way i dont have to add more wire's and bulbs which can break.    |
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Post by diynuke on Nov 30, 2017 14:44:51 GMT -5
okay i am a bit stuck for now i have to figure out how i shall do the wire harness www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVAFxYu1oIkhere you can see what i am thinking about i maybe think i will keep the old wire harness and make a small box for the not waterproof components and just be done with it. how do you guys think about this? |
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Post by AtariGuy on Nov 30, 2017 15:31:59 GMT -5
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Post by AtariGuy on Nov 30, 2017 15:38:20 GMT -5
Other options for that watertight box could be a chopped computer case, silicone, and exterior door gaskets on the access panel or use an ammo can to house the major electrical. I'm working on mine currently as well, bought 6 rolls (roughly 10 meters in length each) of different colored wire to refab my harness and it'll be wrapped in a plastic flexible conduit.
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Post by diynuke on Nov 30, 2017 15:44:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the pic that's exactly what i am looking to make of it ill search for an ammo can and just put it all in there after that a different saddle and a fuel tank looks sweet! |
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Post by AtariGuy on Nov 30, 2017 16:56:14 GMT -5
 Something like this. A 50 caliber ammo can should be easily obtainable. Plus they're handy to use for an emergency breakdown tool kit, or tons of other ideas where you need a watertight box. Its made of heavy steel so it will handle some pretty extreme abuse. Originally, ammo stored in it would have to be kept from any kind of moisture and be kept relatively undamaged during transport and they expected a lot of rough terrain to cross, so it's a little overbuilt for our needs. Better to be overbuilt than underbuilt though! |
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Post by AtariGuy on Nov 30, 2017 17:01:56 GMT -5
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Post by diynuke on Dec 13, 2017 15:57:01 GMT -5
i grinded away the excess metal but now i kind of would like a opinion of you guys. i could shorten the rear 2 tubes and make the rear wheel stick out but then the shock will be all the way at the rear i honestly am not sure if that looks nice.. and should i slamm down or should i keep the shock absorber in there?   i am starting to cut some aditional steel to strengthen the frame a bit and i found some stainless mesh so i guess i can make something cool from that |
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Post by AtariGuy on Dec 13, 2017 18:24:43 GMT -5
You could fabricate a longer subframe to get the stretched look. Otherwise you could cut a crossbar and weld it in the back between your shortened tubes to give you a strong place to grab the rear of the scooter - and it wouldn't look like it was just cut with an unfinished plan to it? Its your call though, what would please you most when its done?
As far as a shorter shock, you'd feel a rough road more. Again, your call. The lowered scoot look is a good look imo, but it does sacrifice ride comfort and changes how it handles. You can always try a shorter shock and swap back to the original if you dont like how it rides
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Post by diynuke on Dec 14, 2017 15:50:09 GMT -5
You could fabricate a longer subframe to get the stretched look. Otherwise you could cut a crossbar and weld it in the back between your shortened tubes to give you a strong place to grab the rear of the scooter - and it wouldn't look like it was just cut with an unfinished plan to it? Its your call though, what would please you most when its done? As far as a shorter shock, you'd feel a rough road more. Again, your call. The lowered scoot look is a good look imo, but it does sacrifice ride comfort and changes how it handles. You can always try a shorter shock and swap back to the original if you dont like how it rides  i think i will throw one of these on it they are pretty comfortable. and for the rear tubes. i think i will make a steel plate under it and make a lid on the top so i can hide all the electronics in it i would have to remove the center tubefor that tho so i will do that ah and i think i will use angle stock(that 90degree angle stuff) and tap some holes in it and mount a plate on that so i can remove it later if needed ambitious plans but i will see how it turns out ;D for the fuel tank i am thinking of an old fire extinguisher  something like this but then vertical and somehow i am really good at making things a bit too heavy duty xD i just thought if i am making it all from 3mm sheet metal it will make it 20kg heavier.. but well ill see ;P |
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Post by AtariGuy on Dec 14, 2017 18:14:42 GMT -5
www.tedpella.com/company_html/gauge.htmTheres a thickness and weight table on standard mild steel sheet metal, looking at that, 3mm would be roughly 11 gauge, you may want to consider 14 gauge to still have a rigid build but save weight. 2mm thick is still quite strong and would weigh 62.5% what 3mm sheet weighs. Power to weight ratio matters, and grams add up fast. Just a thought. And i do build over-strong as well. I'm working on a steering fork swap from scooter style to a dirt bike front end myself. Most of my reasoning is to get a bigger front wheel and a disc brake, but the rigid front end and improved suspension is a huge bonus for me.
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Post by diynuke on Jan 25, 2018 15:59:38 GMT -5
  Okay i have a small update on the scoot i welded a small frame for the saddle so it's bolted to the frame so i can take it off. i also welded some additional steel to the rear shock mount / bridge since that was really rusty and that is the last place where i would want it to tear so yeah that's REALLY strong now. xD (and yes overkill like always..) now i am still searching for the tank. i found a steel tube but that stuff is 10mm thick so that weigh's around 20kg for just the outer wall xD so ehh no.. |
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Post by diynuke on Jan 25, 2018 16:13:59 GMT -5
this is what i was planning but i would like it to have it lying down completely so i would have to shorten it a bit  |
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Post by jbjhillbilly on Jan 26, 2018 0:23:52 GMT -5
Check the go-kart places for gas tanks.
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