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Post by spanky4x4 on Jul 18, 2011 18:09:35 GMT -5
first time to pull cvt cover off. wow these parts are small. I was under the understanding that around 3500 to 4000 miles i should change the belt. i checked mine today at 3537 miles and it measured 16 mm wide aginst the advertyised 17mm(788-17-28). Since i am a heavy rider i want to stay ahead of maintenance so it doest leave me stranded somewhere with a broken belt. Thanks :scoot2:
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 18, 2011 18:12:30 GMT -5
Most of the belts rated at 17mm wide are actually just over 16 new. Gotta love it. That's fine. 15mm is the service limit. You'll probably be noticing decreased top speed by then. As long as it doesn't look like it's dried out or ready to bust, you should be OK for a bit. I'd suggest getting one and having it around though.
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Post by spanky4x4 on Jul 18, 2011 18:31:23 GMT -5
cool. thanks. i expected alot more "dust" to indicate wear,but its pretty clean. I guess i need to put together a tool kit so i can do roadside repairs.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 18, 2011 19:27:20 GMT -5
It does come in handy sometimes.
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Post by coolguy641 on Jul 22, 2011 16:09:13 GMT -5
Your going to have a hardtime changing your belt with a roadside tool kit. I changed mine last week and played hell geting the bolts off that go to the variator. I suggest getting an impact wrench.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 22, 2011 17:23:12 GMT -5
I've done it a few times. I broke two belts in 1 mile once and swapped 'em out on the road. lol Along with the tool to lock the vari in place, I carry a small hammer along with me to tap the wrench or ratchet and make life easier. Some folks carry an impact that can run off of the scooter's battery.
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Post by spanky4x4 on Jul 23, 2011 10:38:59 GMT -5
I am not carring an impact! I think with the correct variator holding tool, the bolt will give with standard tools. I havent done this yet but theses parts are very small compared to what i am used to, and i am pretty sure i can get it done with hand tools. I will practice at home before any long trips, thats for sure!
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 23, 2011 14:59:12 GMT -5
You can break it free with a regular ratchet. I carry the hammer because I carry a stubby ratchet and it's hard to get leverage. The hammer is a stubby one too. Just easier to fit a bunch of stuff under the seat using the little suckers. My tool kit... 49ccscoot.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=basicstuff&action=display&thread=1485&page=1My biggest problem is that I hardly ever carry it along with me. I always have it on a long trip though.
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Post by MAReames on Jul 23, 2011 15:05:14 GMT -5
Why are you taking the Vari off to change the belt??? Use your hand to compress the rear pulley and slide the belt as far as you can in then carefully roll it over the Vari.
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Post by tango on Jul 24, 2011 11:19:20 GMT -5
Why are you taking the Vari off to change the belt??? Use your hand to compress the rear pulley and slide the belt as far as you can in then carefully roll it over the Vari. I use that method on my scooter and it works the majority of the time. On one occasion no matter what I did it just wouldn't come off. I have no clue what was going on, but I had to take the vari off. On one occasion I actually seriously cut a belt while trying to get it on via the same method. Ouch! I personally prefer the remove-vari option. Less potential for disaster, but obviously requires tools.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 24, 2011 11:58:46 GMT -5
I cannot remove the belt form any of my scooters without taking the vari off... unless I've broken the belt already. lol Wish I could, but it just doesn't work.
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Post by reveeen on Jul 24, 2011 13:45:06 GMT -5
I have always had to remove one end, or the other, to change a belt.
Something I should mention:
It seems a belt has a break-in period. Not a lot of miles, (I estimate about 50), but during this break-in period the belt is getting accustomed to the drive/driven faces (angles) it has to work with. In some cases a LOT of extra heat is generated which can put an end to that brand new belt prematurely. So, I have found it is best to "go easy" for a short time. Call me crazy, if you like, but I saw this on a 150cc Honda Elite using an OEM Honda belt.
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 25, 2011 9:35:10 GMT -5
lol, call me crazy! Im the guy that washes my new belts in very hot soapy water before i use em.
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Post by Goosey on Jul 28, 2011 8:55:42 GMT -5
Is that something recommended or just your thing? I can see since you are shooting for the quickest take off and speed how you'd want to prevent even a fraction of slip though.
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 28, 2011 9:25:40 GMT -5
Its just my thing. I wash allot of parts that way tho. Cylinders, heads, and complete engine cases after work (grinding metal). On belts it gets anything that may have gotten onto the belt (oil, and or anything really) or anything that may be on the belt to "preserve" it from the factory. I could be way off but thats me lol. My last belt that i got new left a black oily substance in the sink after the wash so i like to think that one paid off for me lol.
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