bigallis1
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Post by bigallis1 on Sept 14, 2019 5:08:25 GMT -5
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Post by tortoise2 on Sept 14, 2019 8:20:08 GMT -5
Did you receive a Certificate Of Origin from Walmart or Sam's Club for this 50cc scooter?
Did the Florida DMV need to see the certificate for scooter registration?
Which body elements need to be removed for engine access to check valve clearance?
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Rune 75
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Post by Rune 75 on Sept 14, 2019 9:03:15 GMT -5
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bigallis1
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Post by bigallis1 on Sept 14, 2019 12:42:15 GMT -5
Tortoise2, yes the scooter is shipped to Sam's Club, (assume Walmart also) with a certificate of origin from Coleman Powersports in the box.
Management at Sam's or Walmart has to sign the certificate over to the buyer. (Top block on back of certificate)
The DMV here in Sumter county also wanted the vin# written on the Sam's club receipt, (fussy,fussy)
I actually tried to register my scooter yesterday and found out about signing the back of the certificate.
The Sams's Club receipt shows price paid and tax paid which is really all the DMV needs.
The Sam's receipt also shows the scooter item# as: 980177830 50cc scooter. The certificate of origin states it's a 49.3cc scooter.
I will be trying to register the scooter again next week. Hopefully with the Sam's club manager signature and scooter vin written on receipt will do.
I will post on how I made out.
Jim...…...
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bigallis1
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Post by bigallis1 on Sept 14, 2019 12:47:39 GMT -5
Did you receive a Certificate Of Origin from Walmart or Sam's Club for this 50cc scooter? Did the Florida DMV need to see the certificate for scooter registration? Which body elements need to be removed for engine access to check valve clearance? With the seat housing off, (4 bolts) you have good access to the engine. Not sure if you would need to take the left or right side housing off to check valve clearance. I took all the panels off to do my paint scheme. Valve clearance is something I will want to learn how to check at some point. Jim...... |
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Post by tortoise2 on Sept 14, 2019 13:00:03 GMT -5
Valve clearance is something I will want to learn how to check |
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bigallis1
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Post by bigallis1 on Sept 14, 2019 20:10:55 GMT -5
Thank's for the link Tortoise2.
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Post by chehystpewpur on Sept 14, 2019 23:08:40 GMT -5
go to harbor freight if you want to go cheap or sears if one is still around you. if not lowes or home depot got the craftsman contract and sell these feeler gauges. i got the craftsman ones because they had a million sizes on one stick including the mm and inches size printed on each blade. www.searsoutlet.com/br/pdp/craftsman-36-leaf-combination-gauge/12254www.craftsman.com/products/32-blade-feeler-gaugeeither one of those will make your life a million times easier. yeah you can pry find one that has less and uses the sizes you need. but few will have the ones that come in handy for anything else for the same price or less. if you like ordering online search for either of those model numbers and get the best price. i have the 36 blade one and lets just say there wasnt a size i didnt have. during the time i spent as a mechanic everyone at my shop came to grab mine when theirs wouldnt fit or didnt have this size or that size. they are pretty flexible and i used them on a ton of motors myself. the ability to flex and the easy to read numbers made it pretty easy to use and wiggle around to get them in and out. even on heads on vehicles that were recessed and wouldnt allow a solid gauge to get in there these things popped right in and did what they were intended to do. they didnt get skinnier scratch or lose material like some of the cheaper and more expensive ones did over time including snap on ones whoda thunk. pry the guy that didnt spend his life savings on the snap on version with less blades. i bought mine before i became a mechanic and only had the intention of using for valve adjustments on the 4t scoot i had at the time. started using to check piston ring end gap when cylinder swaps and aging motors happened and i also wanted to add. that thumb screw u see in the picture easily unscrews and you can pull individual blades out to make life easier if space is a real big issue. so wont let you do that for some reason. dont think about it just get them and have some piece of mind. youll be checking gaps on things that dont matter someday just because you can. plus because its craftsman and they have a lifetime warranty on pretty much any tool if it breaks or has an issue u can swap it out for free at any craftsman location or they will order you one and you swap it when the new one comes in. |
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bigallis1
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Post by bigallis1 on Sept 15, 2019 13:05:49 GMT -5
Thank's for the info on feeler gauges chehystpewpur. I have a set made by Starrett. Had it many many years. Still in excellent shape.
Jim...…..
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Post by chehystpewpur on Sept 16, 2019 10:35:17 GMT -5
well atleast you dont have to go spend any extra money on them. and fwiw its not hard at all to check lash and is recommended every like 850-1000 miles on the 4t scoots if im not mistaken atleast the older ones it was. youll hear the valves start tapping slightly when the rocker arm comes into contact with the stem since the gap gets too big and they have some time to accelerate before they touch. youll also loose some power and your scoot will wake up every time you do an adjustment. dont be afraid and take your time. its super simple and easy to do. maybe while your at it one day stuff an a9 cam in there if youd like a little more beans to go with your scoot. it wont hurt it in any way and will give a much needed boost in power and since your right there why not. i could do valve adjustments in under 15 mins on those things swap a cam in 20-25 tops.
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Post by tortoise2 on Sept 16, 2019 10:52:30 GMT -5
Typically the exhaust valve gap closes up, potentially to the point of loosing compression. May not be optimal, but cutting a strip from the side of an aluminum beverage can works fine for feeler gauge. |
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Post by chehystpewpur on Sept 16, 2019 11:09:00 GMT -5
Typically the exhaust valve gap closes up, potentially to the point of loosing compression. May not be optimal, but cutting a strip from the side of an aluminum beverage can works fine for feeler gauge. really? i havent seen the gap close up before but i havent seen everything. my old 4t's were older worn motors so they usually went out of spec on the big side and on cars due to wear and the sheer amount of miles they went on the big side too but i will keep that in mind. also op has feeler gauges luckily so he should have the sizes he needs. |
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bigallis1
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Post by bigallis1 on Sept 17, 2019 4:42:28 GMT -5
Got the new scoot registered yesterday finally. A little more expensive than I thought but was not sure as this was first experience. Title fee was $73.50 alone. They also charged me additional sales tax, not sure why as I had paid Sam's club sales tax when I bought it. Need to go back to DMV for explanation.
So all in all I paid: $111.80 for title and fees, plus $52.60 for new plate and tag. $164.40 total.
Insurance is looking like it will be expensive. Getting quotes at over $200.00 annual. Although this is my first experience and it might be about right.
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bigallis1
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Post by bigallis1 on Sept 17, 2019 4:47:15 GMT -5
well atleast you dont have to go spend any extra money on them. and fwiw its not hard at all to check lash and is recommended every like 850-1000 miles on the 4t scoots if im not mistaken atleast the older ones it was. youll hear the valves start tapping slightly when the rocker arm comes into contact with the stem since the gap gets too big and they have some time to accelerate before they touch. youll also loose some power and your scoot will wake up every time you do an adjustment. dont be afraid and take your time. its super simple and easy to do. maybe while your at it one day stuff an a9 cam in there if youd like a little more beans to go with your scoot. it wont hurt it in any way and will give a much needed boost in power and since your right there why not. i could do valve adjustments in under 15 mins on those things swap a cam in 20-25 tops. Great info chehystpewpur. Thank you.... I definitely will look into the cam thing at some point. Right now I've got to get some miles on this thing and break it in. Jim...….. |
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Post by tortoise2 on Sept 17, 2019 6:32:48 GMT -5
Insurance is looking like it will be expensive. Include Foremost in your research. |
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