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Post by hellish100 on Jan 31, 2020 22:06:36 GMT -5
When you say you have jog forks, do you have a full jog to pull parts from?
Are you using the jog motor with the razz pipe?
If you have a set a vernier calipers, I'd recommend measuring up the steering stem between the Jog stem and the Razz stem to see if they can be swapped. I agree, the stock Razz front end is made for doing 15MPH around a camp ground/ rv park.
Getting a taller rear shock will increase your rake = more instant steering. The engine mounting of my Razz is super jacked so the rake is approx the same as a sport bike. How close does it point the exhaust to hitting the road by installing the Beemer shock? I'd probably want that to give the most clearance around the header pipe.
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Post by hellish100 on Jan 31, 2020 22:11:29 GMT -5
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Post by 2stroked on Feb 1, 2020 8:17:14 GMT -5
Wow, now that's sketchy, even for me.... Yeah, I have an old Jog. The Beamer shock has the Jog pipe about two inches at the lowest point above the ground under my fat ass... With the shock out, to give a full range of motion, the pipe clears the mount completely, no matter the engine angle. Shock in makes no difference. Still clears. Would like to see more clearance, but am happy it clears at all. Thought about using the Razz pipe, but its clocked way off to the Jog jug, and vise versa. I haven't looked closer, but the Razz & Jog seem to share a neck, so I am hoping they share a drop as well, otherwise I'm stuck with forks that I wouldn't trust on a BMX let alone a scoot.... |
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Post by 2stroked on Feb 2, 2020 7:59:46 GMT -5
Well the 40mm piston and rings came in with the gasket kit yesterday. I ordered the piston/rings three days before the gaskets, and each pack was supposed to be for different bikes. BUT, I want the little light bike up and going, so the Beamer can wait a while.
Everything was installed and engine back together last night, today I'll clean the carb, again, and throw it back together. Added a bullet connector to the starer wire that was a bitch to get to, makes engine install/pull so much easier. Hopefully this gets it right, and then I can worry about the front end. And when its moving under its own power, and reliably, I can focus on the beamer. Am anxious to compare the two at stock, and then again with bbk on each.....
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Post by 2stroked on Feb 10, 2020 14:56:47 GMT -5
Going to tearinto the spaghetti minster under the Tupperware, and see if I can't get the right side controls to work. No starter button, no kill switch. All lights and signals work, bike does run, moves well. Guess I'll have to add a cylinder shroud to the ever growing list of crap this thing needs, as I cannot find the one it had. Its just gone. I don't get it...
Going to wire in a USB power slot, and a 12v outlet while I'm playing with the pissed off pixies.
I'm still worried the pipe is too low, but that's an issue I can't really prove or dismiss til I can get some damn seat time, which I can't get as my dumb ass lost the cylinder shroud. Ugh.
Going to throw a stock piston and ring kit to the little Beamer and see what happens. I think there is something wrong there, as it will not fire without a battery, and my other two Beamers have been fine without a battery....
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Post by dexameth on Feb 10, 2020 15:35:02 GMT -5
Hey! I'm doing the USB power slot too here in a couple days.... That right switch, is the connector healthy? No pins mucked up from someone probing a multimeter? Normally the kill switch is it's own circuit, used to ground to kill, so in my mind there's just something disconnected. Who knows, maybe the inside of the switch assembly is corroded or full of spiders  |
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Post by 2stroked on Feb 10, 2020 18:29:19 GMT -5
Hey! I'm doing the USB power slot too here in a couple days.... That right switch, is the connector healthy? No pins mucked up from someone probing a multimeter? Normally the kill switch is it's own circuit, used to ground to kill, so in my mind there's just something disconnected. Who knows, maybe the inside of the switch assembly is corroded or full of spiders Switch is great. Even tried the switch block off the Jog. Known good starter relay, pulling the brake lever triggers the two wires to go hot, but not the starter. Relay starts another scoot, supposedly wired the same. Not sure what's going on. Did download a great service manual for the Jog, and the Razz shares the wiring harness, one wire is different. Kill wire is black and red. Problem.is, the only black/red wire on the bars goes into a little block with Tyree or four other wires. |
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Post by 2stroked on Feb 15, 2020 15:12:43 GMT -5
And I'm done. Screw this money pit.
I've decided to roach it together, make sure it starts with the button reliably, and looks half ass decent, then its off to see Craig and his magic list.
1992 Razz that has the Jog transplant and a 12 inch rear shock. The gauges work it runs and rides pretty well for a near 30 year old bike, but its just not something I'm in to. Not sure why, but I just can't get into this bike. Sad, because I do see the potential, and its not much more $$ to build than the horizontals, buts not for me. This will hopefully be the end of this thread. IF it sells, I'll post a pic of the finished (my part) bike......
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Post by Zino on Feb 15, 2020 15:15:50 GMT -5
There will be another Project.
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Post by 2stroked on Feb 15, 2020 19:51:46 GMT -5
@zino18 yeah, there is another. One I am vastly more familiar with. The Beamer. The big problem with this Razz thing is, the more I look at it, the more I see that I could change, and make, mod and alter. And buy. Especially buy. The JDM tail light is so vastly superior to what we got, I have the housing with the dummy lenses. I just cannot keep that monstrosity of a rack on there, when I could just buy the lenses, and reflectors. Then the forks, they need to be replaced. The brakes are drum, but I'd love to get disc, and could probably find a way, but at a steep cost. The vari is too small, a 107mm rear will fit the shaft, not the housing. So I "could" cut the rear of the cover to fit a good TD, then cylinder, carb, pipe, like any build. The issue is the fact that also makes the bike a worthy project, the name tag. If this wasn't Yami, or was some Chinese thing, there wouldn't be the cost, because there aren't the possibilities.......make sense?
I'm not very well versed in these vertical cylinders, so any kit I bought would be a random choice more inspired by cost and word of mouth than any science. A horizontal kit, I can look at port maps, and talk to folks that have used them, and more importantly to my pocket, especially in winter, I can find horizontal parts cheaper, by about half. Just look for pre owned, it may not be the perfect method, but I'd be able to build a decent fast, reliable bike out of the Beamer for a lit less than this Razz will cost.
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Post by Zino on Feb 15, 2020 20:54:37 GMT -5
I have the sickness also .
It is so hard to leave well enough alone with these little scoots .
That little Razz/Jog you dont have much in right now except time so you can move on .
Someone else can build the Razz rocket up or just leave it as is and tear around .
Dexameth is building up a pretty sweet beamer kitted with a tecnigas triops exhaust hits 56mph .
I've built a couple and they are solid at 50 plus mph .
And I see you have already built one so you have a couple blue prints already .
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Post by hellish100 on Feb 16, 2020 8:17:10 GMT -5
I’m sorry to hear that you’re not into it. I’ve been on/off my razz project for two years but I’m so happy that I stuck with it. Ever thought about keeping it around for the day that you’d want to revisit it?
Where is the razz located?
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Post by 2stroked on Feb 16, 2020 9:26:29 GMT -5
Yeah hellish, I've debated keeping it, but I have 4 250cc scoots, and currently have 4 50-72cc scoots too....
Sketch lives in Ky.
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Post by hellish100 on Feb 16, 2020 13:14:25 GMT -5
Too bad KY is so far from TX. I'd be tempted. Could you shoot us a few more pics of it?
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Post by Zino on Feb 16, 2020 13:56:01 GMT -5
I see a road trip for hellish in the future checking out the great state of Kentucky .
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