Quarantine killer

[Sum-azn-kid]

If u post a pic of th CVT parts and inside of the kicker cover guys I can tell for sure if you have the small spline crank case.

[hippo008]

May 30, 2021 2:13:35 GMT -5 Sum-azn-kid said:

Looks like u have a big spline crank and seal but a small spline crank case. If ur motor is an AF18e motor there are 2 versions. Big spline same as sym dd50 and af16e usdm crankcase and small spline. If you want to use that crankcase u will need a skinny aftermarket seal.

Interesting. This is an AF18E from Japan. So I must have the 2nd version of this motor, or somebody must have swapped crankshafts at one point in time on this scooter.

So what seal am I looking for? An AF16E seal?

I can post some photos in a minute.

[Sum-azn-kid]

No it's a special seal. I'll try to take a pic when I get home.

[hippo008]

Exciting news. I am importing a *very* nice Honda Dio Baja XR. I've been going back and forth with a few importers and I found a good one. These Bajas are rare even in Japan, from the auction history I saw only about 8 a year sell. Keep in mind these auctions sell about 3000~ motorcycles and scooters a day, 5 days a week in Japan. 

So my plan for the Dio 2 ZX has changed. I'm going to finish the restoration and sell it as a restored stock bike. Not sure what I'm looking to get out of it, but considering I paid so little ill make money no matter what. 

If anybody on the forum would like to purchase a fully registered, legal and restored Dio 2 ZX please let me know. I'll give you guys a much better price than anyone else. This forum has been a fantastic resource and very helpful, I'd like to pay that forward. 

Pictures of the Dio Baja XR in Japan. 

[Sum-azn-kid]

[hippo008]

Jun 1, 2021 4:12:11 GMT -5 Sum-azn-kid said:

There that little bugger is. Where did you get one? Where can I buy this mystical seal

[hippo008]

If anyone would like a detailed video or write up on importing let me know. I'm thinking of putting one together but I don't know if theirs any interest in such a topic.

[Sum-azn-kid]

I got it from a shop on Oahu. Sam Martin, 808 cycle center. I think he is on FB and google. Also try Glenn's cycles also on Oahu.

[hippo008]

I took some photos of the dimensions of the sealing surfaces. This is the variator side OD


Variator side ID





Stator Side OD






Now I may be wrong, but I thought small seal AF18E motors had the same size seal on both sides? Meaning the variator side seal would also be a 25mm~ bore. I think I have the big seal cases and the big spline crank.

Am I an idiot? Can I just not install a little oil seal properly?

[Sum-azn-kid]

I'll take some measurements of the seals I have and let u know

[Sum-azn-kid]

The OD on small spline crank is 26mm so you do have a big spline crank case.

[hippo008]

So I'm just a moron who cannot install this oil seal correctly. RIP.

What am I doing wrong?

I put a thin layer of grease around the outer and inner edge of the seal, then I use a round punch that contacts the complete surface of the seal and drive it into the crankcase. Everytime one side has gotten caught and ripped the seal.

Maybe I should split the cases and install the seal from the inside out?

[geoffh]

We all make mistakes and later wonder how a simple job got hard,I can only think that the seal goes in the other way round but that,s just tyre kicking.

Geoff

[Sum-azn-kid]

I've installed the seal both ways. Before pulling the case together and after. I used a deep socket. Just go slow and evenly all around.

[190mech]

PVC pipe!!