Honda Metropolitan / Reflex 250 swap

[furiousbob]

Alright so I picked up an 05 Reflex and 05 Metro for cheap.  Both were about $1k each.  The Metro wasn't running and the Reflex was in a front-end low-speed collision.

So I ripped the motor out!




Unfortunately, that's all I got for now.  I started tearing panels off the Metro.  It looks like the motors are pretty similarly sized.  The overall length is about 10" longer, though.  This will have a stretched look to it.  Some initial measuring tells me I MIGHT be able to use the metro motor mounting locations for the Reflex.  That or a simple cut/weld with some new tabs, perhaps?

A note about the Reflex motor.  It's got a LOT of vacuum hoses.  A bunch of them are emissions equipment, however.  There's an AIR system onboard (sorta like an EGR?), which can be deleted.  I believe there's also a charcoal canister system.  Same, delete!

I will re-use the overflow tank on the Metro for the 250cc.

The most complicated part is going to be figuring out wiring as I re-use the ECU from the Reflex.  I'm surprised these things have any sort of management, though.  They seem to be simple CDI systems.

Anyway, not sure when the next update will be but I'll post em here when I get em.

[brecken]

I have the exact same scooters outside. I started taking off all plastics and getting down to the the engine only on reflex. Came in to see what I could find on google. Will be following you closely.

[furiousbob]

Unfortunately not much progress on this since the last post. Going through some personal issues right around October of 2023 and I haven't had time to revisit my projects since.

It's still #1 on my radar though. I'll post updates here whenever they happen.