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Post by kcndacity on Apr 28, 2012 19:45:31 GMT -5
thankfully in Ct.. i don't have to worry about it.
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Post by inuyasha on Apr 28, 2012 19:47:15 GMT -5
thankfully in Ct.. i don't have to worry about it. Hi Pleased to meet you neighbor :cheers: Take care and ride safely Yours Hank |
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Post by oldgeek on Apr 28, 2012 20:24:41 GMT -5
Here is what I have to work with. I think there is no hope to register as MC.  |
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Post by jmkjr72 on Apr 28, 2012 20:29:39 GMT -5
nope not much to work with as that is a mco made just for your state
and its not uncommon for importers to do this heck even the big boys do this to help market there scoots to hit the ped market
it might not hurt to get in touch with a dealer and see what it will cost to get a diffrent mco or give the guys at the bottme a call (612) 338-5345 and see what they might do to help you out
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Post by oldgeek on Apr 28, 2012 20:40:20 GMT -5
Thanks, for the info. I will give that a try, can't hurt.
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Post by marshinman on Apr 28, 2012 22:31:02 GMT -5
North Carolina tried to pass a law in 2009 on scooter.
They want all scooters to have insurance and if you are between the age of 16 to 18 you would be required to take a scooter safety test.
My wife is an insurance agent and has had several people have to claim on their auto insurance accidents where a scooter hit them.
I agree that if you ride on the road you should at least have liability insurance.
I dont agree that the state needs to get involved and collect taxes for the registration of the scooter.
I also agree that there should be a safety class that is required.
I think that if stopped you should be required to show proof of insurance and that if required proof that you took a safety class.
You can add insurance to your scooter in NC for about $60.00 a year.
I dont think that is too much to ask for as it will protect you in the event of a accident.
Scooter have been given a bad rap as being liquor cicles , meaning if you drink and drive and get a DUI in a car then just ride a scooter to go get your liquor. While I am sure this is still true to some point more and more of us are using them as affordable transportation to save gas a keep the green back in the pocket.
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Post by jmkjr72 on Apr 28, 2012 22:54:27 GMT -5
i ahve no porblem with haveing to plate my scooter
why well here in wi the registrion trust is how they pay for roads
second being there is a title and registration if my scooter is stolen the state already has a record of my vin number so i might have a better chance of getting my scoot back
plus the fact that its the same price as my motorcycle plates 23 every 2 years
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Post by dr1445 on Apr 29, 2012 5:20:45 GMT -5
how many folks would own a 49cc if you had to get reg, tax and insure to feed the state? could you even save enough $ to justify the purchase price?
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Post by marshinman on Apr 29, 2012 7:10:46 GMT -5
Here is a answer to the question.
I am not endorsing this in any way.
We have insurance on our scooters as I feel it keeps alot from happening later.
Registration 22.00
TaX 7.00
Insurance 60.00
Total 89.00
Scooter Mileage/Gas
Gas $3.75 per gallon
Gas Mileage 80.00 per gallon
Avg Miles per week 200.00 (40 miles per day 5 day week)
Gas Storage 1.5 Gallons
Amount to fill Tank $5.62
Amt Gas needed to travel Distance 2.5 gallons
Cost of gas for the week $9.37
Car Mileage/Gas
Gas $3.75 per gallon
Gas Mileage 30.00 per gallon
Avg Miles per week 200.00 (40 miles per day 5 day week)
Gas Storage 18.00 Gallons
Amount to fill Tank $67.50
Amt Gas needed to travel Distance 6.7 gallons
Cost of gas for the week $25.00
Amount Saved per week travel $15.63
Time to make up Insurance, Tax and Reg 5 weeks
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Post by marshinman on Apr 29, 2012 7:13:52 GMT -5
Here is yet another question to the topic.
If you live in a state that does not require you to have License/Insurance etc... on your scooter and travel on the scooter to another state that does require it.
A) Are you required by that states governing laws to have the above mentioned?
B) Are you still covered under the state that you come from?
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Post by dr1445 on Apr 29, 2012 7:45:09 GMT -5
the savings depends then on miles. by your numbers if you ride 100 miles a week the payback is 3 months and so on down the road. i personally would not want to ride a 49cc scooter 40 miles a day. mostly i use mine for under 5 mile runs, but then i have a motorcycle for longer runs. i put on about 80 miles a week on the scooter, weather permitting. if i had to do the dmv route i would stick to just the motorcycle or bigger scooter. my 02.
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 29, 2012 8:43:02 GMT -5
Here is yet another question to the topic. If you live in a state that does not require you to have License/Insurance etc... on your scooter and travel on the scooter to another state that does require it. A) Are you required by that states governing laws to have the above mentioned? B) Are you still covered under the state that you come from? I am in MD, but live very close to DE. I did contact DE MVA or DOT (forget which actually gave me a straight forward answer) prior to riding in their state, because they require "moped" stickers and registration and MD (for the moment) requires only a valid driver's license to operate a scooter. I was told that as long as I could prove I was from MD that I did not need any registration. I offered to buy a sticker, $15 IIRC, just because I thought it may make life easier. I was told they will not do that for anyone other than a DE resident. Since then I have rode in DE numerous times. I've even had a cop follow me around at prob 2AM when there was nothing better to do. I just knew he ws going to check me out since I had no moped sticker. Nope. Didn't do a thing. What I think I'd be most concerned with of any regulations is whether or not a valid driver's license is required. If you don't have a license and it's not required in your state, I'd find out if it's required for you to ride in the other state. That could potentially be a very large fine if nothing else. MD is a $500 fine and up to 60 days in jail for driving without a license. $1000 and up to 60 days for driving with a suspended license. That's not a ticket I'd wanna get. You can get $1000 fine and jail time as well for no insurance. I don't really think they'd pin you with that being from another state, but seems like it's worth asking to be sure. One other thing I would advise is to check the other state's riding laws. IIRC the speed limit in DE was 25MPH, slower than MD. I think that's changed now, not sure. Anyway, they had a lower speed limit and slightly different laws regarding where a scooter or moped is allowed to ride. I did try to obey those laws (at least while the cops were looking  ). |
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Post by marshinman on Apr 29, 2012 8:53:10 GMT -5
Love the angel wings ...LOL you an angel ok and I am Moses...LOL
Great information to consider when riding out of your home state.
As always you are a great resource for information and knowledge.
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Post by marshinman on Apr 29, 2012 9:01:51 GMT -5
the savings depends then on miles. by your numbers if you ride 100 miles a week the payback is 3 months and so on down the road. i personally would not want to ride a 49cc scooter 40 miles a day. mostly i use mine for under 5 mile runs, but then i have a motorcycle for longer runs. i put on about 80 miles a week on the scooter, weather permitting. if i had to do the dmv route i would stick to just the motorcycle or bigger scooter. my 02. I am planning on using mine to drive to and from work on nice days this year. One way for me to work is 26 miles. My daily vehicle a KIA Sportage gets about 24 MPG, with our gas prices at $3.75 to $3.85 a gallon I plan on saving some money. Per day for me to drive my car back and forth to work costs me on average about $10.00 per day, via the scooter would only cost me about $3.75 every other day. Thats a savings of about $35.00 per week. |
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Post by dr1445 on Apr 29, 2012 9:41:28 GMT -5
here in ct if you go through the dmv grinder you get added to your towns grand list. so if we had the dmv imposed on us here the annual government costs would be over $100 per year. that would cut big time into my fuel savings for a year, which as they stand are around $250. i got my vento used with no compression and put about $600 into it total with a bbk. after a couple of seasons i am almost paid for. my point is, that if you are forced to go the dmv route you might as well get a 150cc and be able to keep up with traffic since there is little advantage to the 49 at that point.
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