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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 27, 2020 11:51:36 GMT -5
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Post by captincvmn on Sept 27, 2020 11:52:01 GMT -5
So I ventured down to OC on a whim, not knowing it was H2O weekend. Made good time from York PA to 2.5 miles away from OC. Dead stopped at the go cart track outside town at 7:10 pm. Estimated time into OC at 1.8 miles was 59 minutes. Nope. Went down 611 to Green Turtle and ate dinner. Went back up to 50 and got a room for the night at Francis Scott Key. Today went to Asseteague and gonna hit the boardwalk for an hour then back to PA.
PS, Brent- Buy a portable metal bandsaw (Portaband). It works way better in place of the sawzall for cutting stock in the vise.
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Post by aeroxbud on Sept 27, 2020 12:41:14 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity. These scooters and cars impounded. Do you get them back? Have to pay a fee?
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 27, 2020 17:31:47 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity. These scooters and cars impounded. Do you get them back? Have to pay a fee? You get them back or they charge you daily. This year they are doing double tow fees. -You have to pay the tow company to take the vehicle to impound. -You have to pay the impound fee. -You have to pay a tow company to tow you out of the impound lot. From what I've seen from people that got their cars impounded, it ends up well over $1,000. Then you have to deal with whatever you did to get impounded too, which are all hiked up fines for the Special Event Zone. I think I may have said it in an earlier post, but for example they take a "driver spinning wheels" ticket from $70 up to $600. Then they can simultaneously give you a ticket for driving in a manner intended to cause skidding. Seems like a double jeopardy kinda thing to me, but I have seen the tickets where they tack on an addition $600 for that. Then they can call it reckless driving as well. That can be $1000/60 days in jail. If your exhaust is loud too, then they can make that another $600 ticket for exhaust causing excessive noise. So maybe a burnout costs $3000-4000 in fines and fees, plus maybe they arrest you. It's nuts. Oh, and that will also add a bunch of points to your license. I think the above scenario would be 6 points IIRC. 12 is an automatic revocation. I think 6 is enough to have to attend a driver improvement program or points system conference. 6 points will definitely jack up your car/bike insurance rates for years to come. Something like a wheelie on a scooter would probably be eligible for wheel leaving the ground ($600), excessive acceleration ($600), excessive noise ($600) and reckless driving ($1000/60 days) plus arrest, impound and many points. These laws will all be in effect when I do go to Endless Summer Cruisin in 2 weeks if it's not rained out or something. Hooray. Just saw on the 6:00 news that now because of witnessing H2Oi, a delegate is going to introduce a bill that makes disrespect to LEOs a hate crime. Not just for the event zone, as a MD law. http://instagram.com/p/CFpJED1HK-x
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Post by jloi on Sept 27, 2020 17:41:02 GMT -5
guess who defines " disrespect" ?
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 30, 2020 18:36:34 GMT -5
I've been up and down the road most of the day. I can't get back to the 3.3 0-30MPH time that I saw when I first installed the S6 clutch. I've done 3.4 with the purple springs as loose as they can go and 3.5 with orange springs after numerous attempts at settings between 3.5 and 2.5 markings. GForceMX has red springs in stock now so I ordered a set of those. It may be my throttle response doing it. I've got it feeling very responsive and snappy basically everywhere and I was just doing 69MPH sitting up in normal position with probably more to go when I let off to turn into my driveway, but it still doesn't hit perfect trying to go quick WOT from a stop. The weather is constantly changing ATM so I can't seem to get 2 runs with the same conditions. If you asked me just based on feel, I'd say it runs harder than it ever has... but 0.1-0.2 seconds 0-30 is hard to feel.
Aside from that, getting the snappy response and better pulling at speed from a leaner needle setting and more ignition advance has made me nervous to hold it part throttle with much speed so I'm rolling around at 30-40MPH for the most part. I've went from conservative and rich as I have been most of the time with the 86cc to doing whatever works for a little more oomph. I'm nervous about rental scooters. I'd hate to have one beat me by a nose when I've seen it go 0.2 seconds quicker. šØ
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Post by oldgeek on Sept 30, 2020 18:44:23 GMT -5
That would surely be embarrassing!
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Post by captincvmn on Sept 30, 2020 22:11:05 GMT -5
From the last video when you had posted the times I was impressed that it went that well right from the beginning. Me and my coworker marvel at how nothing gets onto the scooter without modification. Highly unlikely a rental scoot will pull away from T2.
Now wild turkeys on the other hand, them things are darn fast.
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Post by 90GTVert on Oct 4, 2020 15:32:23 GMT -5
Just finished the video about advancing/retarding timing to see if it helped, plus a bunch of info about timing : www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxFAb6-vlso{DON'T CLICK THIS SENTENCE IF YOU WANT TO SEE TIMING RESULTS IN THE VID FIRST! It will reveal more info.}
I've been messing with more CVT stuff, but so far it's not consistent. My last runs this morning varied by 400-500RPM in 4 back to back runs. That's the worst result to get. It's easier to deal with consistent, but low or high RPM. I think run 2 would have been the winner, but I eased back on the throttle for a sec because of a light front end. Pretty much matches up with all my past data, that it likes being around 13,500 as much as possible. Good news is, it's significantly quicker to 50 vs all past results.
0-30 Time/RPM, 0-40 Time/RPM, 0-50 Time/RPM 1 : 3.5 13700 5.2 13700 7.9 13900 2 : 3.4 13400 5.1 13500 7.5 13800 3 : 3.4 13200 5.1 13100 7.4 13700 4 : 3.3 13200 5.0 13200 7.4 13500 ------------------------------------------------------- AVG 3.4 13375 5.1 13400 7.55 13675
I've actually got a big carb here, but I don't know if I want to get into that with the hot rod show at the end of this week. I'll have to see if it looks like it's going to be a royal pain. I think it will be, between fitting in the scoot, cable, airbox connection, etc... More so because I don't have anything but the carb so getting parts and getting it to work while filming isn't a high probability and I'd rather not get a different intake on and then have to take it off, clean, seal, etc... last minute.
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Post by 90GTVert on Oct 4, 2020 19:11:47 GMT -5
I was just looking at the big carb. It's gonna have to wait. It's not going to be fun to fit. Aside from the stuff mentioned in the spoiler above, it may need a different cable or cable mod as well. My current setup has a 44mm filter connection on the carb, 44mm hose, and 44mm airbox connection. This thing has a 50mm filter connection. The current airbox isn't going to fit anything larger. I barely got the 44mm fitting in there. May need to look at kart airboxes or go for a pod... which I'm definitely not a fan of from past experience. I had a kart airbox at one point and got rid of it. It was huge. I saw that Motoforce makes an airbox that is just shy of 7" long with ~3.5" diameter featuring a 50mm connection, but naturally that has to be out of stock. www.scootertuning.ca/en/air-filters-airbox/6057-airbox-motoforce-racing.htmlI don't even really think it's gonna do much, but I've heard that my 25mm carb is too small and I should have a flat slide for the entire TPR build. Let's hope the comments are correct and not me. Should easily do 115MPH... at 3/4 throttle... against a headwind and uphill... with 2 flat tires.
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Post by oldgeek on Oct 4, 2020 19:41:16 GMT -5
.......... Let's hope the comments are correct and not me. Should easily do 115MPH... at 3/4 throttle... against a headwind and uphill... with 2 flat tires. AND 2 up! Your latest video is really good! That's a lot of info to think about I am still a little confused about retard/advance. I am not sure, but I think you even got them confused at one point in your video, you may want to take a look at that. I will look again and try to find where, I need to watch it a few more times anyway so it might sink in a bit. LoL!
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Post by 90GTVert on Oct 4, 2020 22:38:48 GMT -5
Your latest video is really good! That's a lot of info to think about I am still a little confused about retard/advance. I am not sure, but I think you even got them confused at one point in your video, you may want to take a look at that. I will look again and try to find where, I need to watch it a few more times anyway so it might sink in a bit. LoL! Thanks. If you figure out where I mixed up adv and ret, lemme know. I've watched that video so many times. Not through, but while editing. The little info-graphics beside me take me so long to make. Like the "simple" pipe animation was done by making 40-something individual frames in paintshop and then sticking them together over and over. At least this was nothing like the solid month of effort making the compression vid. So many graphics in that thing and I make them myself like a sucker instead of borrowing everything like most. I like to try to do a good job, but it is a lot of effort. It's a damn good thing I have no life outside of scoots. I'm sure there are easier ways to do this stuff, but as always... buy scoot parts or buy anything else. I've got a new carb so I guess that question is answered. lol Oh, and don't get me started on calculators. This is the calculation and input stuff, not the formatting/look. It looks simple enough and a real web builder would prob do this in their sleep. I worked on it from about 11PM-2AM one night. Woke up at 5:30AM and couldn't stop thinking about it so I had to get up and finish it. Took me a bit to figure out that some of the functions do radians and not degrees so I kept getting wrong answers with everything I tried for a while. function CalcPisPos(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) { CalculatePisPos(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) CalculatePisPos2(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) } function CalculatePisPos(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) { var A = parseFloat(Atext); var B = parseFloat(Btext); var C = parseFloat(Ctext); var D = (C + ( ( B / 2 ) * (1 - (Math.cos((A*3.14159265359)/180))))) - (Math.sqrt((C*C) - (((B/2) * (Math.sin((A*3.14159265359)/180))) * ((B/2) * (Math.sin((A*3.14159265359)/180)))))); form.Answer.value = D.toFixed(2); } function CalculatePisPos2(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) { var A = parseFloat(Atext); var B = parseFloat(Btext); var C = parseFloat(Ctext); var E = ((C + ( ( B / 2 ) * (1 - (Math.cos((A*3.14159265359)/180))))) - (Math.sqrt((C*C) - (((B/2) * (Math.sin((A*3.14159265359)/180))) * ((B/2) * (Math.sin((A*3.14159265359)/180))))))) / 25.4; form.AnswerB.value = E.toFixed(3); } function CalcCrangle(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) { var A = parseFloat(Atext); var B = parseFloat(Btext); var C = parseFloat(Ctext); var D = (((Math.acos(((((((B/2)+C)-A)*(((B/2)+C)-A))+((B/2)*(B/2)))-(C*C)) / (2*(((B/2)+C)-A)*(B/2))))*180)/3.14159265359); form.Answer.value = D.toFixed(2); }
EDIT : I watched the first half of the vid again. If I confused adv and ret, I can't spot it. It's quite possible though. Also, got a YT comment on the ign vid. If I really want power I should build a big bore long stroke motor. Really wish I thought of that before I got into all of this. Maybe someday I'll build a big Minarelli, like 75cc or something. They sound pretty cool, and I guess they don't even need timing adjustments. š How big of an engine do you have to build so you don't have to tune the carb or CVT either?
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Post by 190mech on Oct 5, 2020 4:13:07 GMT -5
Great vid!Didnt see any errors in it..Glad to see your calculator up,have always used torqsoft,but it could be gone anytime like a lot of online calculators have,,,
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Post by captincvmn on Oct 5, 2020 5:39:08 GMT -5
So much work and time involved for you and it benefits us. I left my comment about making an adapter plate with an Allen screw perpendicular to the crank to make fine adjustments to the timing. I know I fee a lot better taking bits off my Keeway and reinstalling them after having watched you do it on U-Tub. I thank you.
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Post by Steve B on Oct 5, 2020 11:08:41 GMT -5
After seeing this function CalcPisPos(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) { CalculatePisPos(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) CalculatePisPos2(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) } function CalculatePisPos(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) { var A = parseFloat(Atext); var B = parseFloat(Btext); var C = parseFloat(Ctext); var D = (C + ( ( B / 2 ) * (1 - (Math.cos((A*3.14159265359)/180))))) - (Math.sqrt((C*C) - (((B/2) * (Math.sin((A*3.14159265359)/180))) * ((B/2) * (Math.sin((A*3.14159265359)/180)))))); form.Answer.value = D.toFixed(2); } function CalculatePisPos2(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) { var A = parseFloat(Atext); var B = parseFloat(Btext); var C = parseFloat(Ctext); var E = ((C + ( ( B / 2 ) * (1 - (Math.cos((A*3.14159265359)/180))))) - (Math.sqrt((C*C) - (((B/2) * (Math.sin((A*3.14159265359)/180))) * ((B/2) * (Math.sin((A*3.14159265359)/180))))))) / 25.4; form.AnswerB.value = E.toFixed(3); } function CalcCrangle(Atext, Btext, Ctext, form) { var A = parseFloat(Atext); var B = parseFloat(Btext); var C = parseFloat(Ctext); var D = (((Math.acos(((((((B/2)+C)-A)*(((B/2)+C)-A))+((B/2)*(B/2)))-(C*C)) / (2*(((B/2)+C)-A)*(B/2))))*180)/3.14159265359); form.Answer.value = D.toFixed(2); } Oh my god I think Aeroxbud was right I am dyslexic. "If you dont understand what i mean click here" 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/27705/2cents-thoughts?page=1&scrollTo=398560
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