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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 19, 2021 4:47:03 GMT -5
What does Ryan do when he comes down? I assume his scoot is tagged MC like mine is. Grey area? He rides around in the bus lane with me. MKDeuce did the same when he came down for a show, so there were 2 PA MC tagged scoots riding with me. No issues. OC is very used to scoots because of a healthy rental business and locals that ride so I think regardless of tags if they see a small scoot in the bus/bike lane they will leave it alone. It's the only town in MD that even has an exception where scoot coupes are allowed. They aren't street legal anywhere else in the state. I have seen OCPD both warn and pull over motorcycles in the bus lane before, but I'm talking actual motorcycles rather than anything with motorcycle tags. Cars and motorcycles are only allowed to use it as a turn lane, so sometimes you'll get people driving around with a turn signal on as if a cop won't notice they've been turning for a mile.
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 19, 2021 11:30:09 GMT -5
I looked over T2 this morning. When I installed the Yasuni silencer on the Malossi exhaust, I had to use a rubber strip so it would clamp well. That was falling out and the silencer could move a bit. I had cut the rubber to match the pattern on the metal clamping strap, but I put a new piece in without matching the design so it's more stable.
I checked the belt as well. Brand new belt just before I loaded the scoot up. 54 miles around the beach. Belt width went from 18mm to 17.25 that quickly. The belt that I took out before the beach had 26 miles on it and was at 17.35mm. The belt before that was replaced at 106 miles at 17.0mm. The one before that had 96 miles on it from the last car show and 1 ride after and it was at 17.3. The one before that broke at 139 miles. Nuckin' futs.
This is another thing that I wanted to work on before the RC-One, but I'm suspicious of the rear pulley. I modified mine when I first got the aluminum version on my 103. I made it match up to what the steel pulley could do with some cutting on the lathe. It seems to perform well, but I wonder if the mods could be causing a problem. They seem to use 2 different variators. The old steel kit is the 2005 version and the aluminum is the 2013 version. So I tried to match a 2013 version of the rear pulley to the 2005 version, and then paired it with the 2013 version variator. Maybe that doesn't help? Part of me wants to buy another aluminum rear pulley and see how it does without mods, but that makes no sense for a setup that will be put aside for the RC-One. The RC-One uses a Piaggio pulley so it's not the same.
Then again, I went through more belts than I ever should have with the whole 2005 kit on there and no mods to either pulley, so it still comes back to how much can I really expect. It may be more sensible to see how the RC-One does. If it doesn't blow apart a belt every 150 miles, then maybe revisit the TPR. Problem there is, once I get 25-30WHP... am I really going to want to put the TPR back in? Not something to tackle today regardless, but it has been on my mind.
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 19, 2021 23:58:41 GMT -5
I had enough to put together about a 5 minute vid. The end clip is the group that laughed about me wanting to race. Didn't realize T2 was so much more interesting after till I saw the rear cam. youtu.be/D6mssyUxo2E
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Post by yambw’s on Sept 20, 2021 2:22:51 GMT -5
Weather looks great! I've Missed content on T2. That red trike cutting you off than Immediately going in to a turn! Face palm
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Post by captincvmn on Sept 20, 2021 5:32:29 GMT -5
T2 is like a chainsaw with teeth.
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Post by aeroxbud on Sept 20, 2021 7:03:39 GMT -5
That's a lot of Harleys
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Post by ryan_ott on Sept 20, 2021 10:02:12 GMT -5
Looks like the Harley crowd is jealous of all that HP. Sorry I couldn’t make it down but I’ll be down next month. Keep T2 together until then!!
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 20, 2021 11:12:50 GMT -5
Looks like the Harley crowd is jealous of all that HP. Sorry I couldn’t make it down but I’ll be down next month. Keep T2 together until then!! Would have been nice to have someone not scared to get a run in, but you didn't miss a lot. I just ordered 2 foam covers for my GoPros. Actually for older GoPros so they have less cutouts for screens to let wind into mics... if they fit. Since I don't have trouble on local rides where I'm cruising more than sitting and they were fine when we were at the last car show, I assume putting the Hero9s in housings is just too much for them when it's hot. I'm hoping not to have to bug you with pulling over to swap batteries and not to miss whatever happens at the car show.
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Post by ryan_ott on Sept 20, 2021 11:24:29 GMT -5
It’ll be nice to get down and have some runs in. The Zuma hasn’t had the love lately just a trailer queen. Probably last run was in Michigan but at least my belt is holding up… My 7’s make some heat but last for the hour you mentioned. Could be the airflow that the Harleys don’t allow for. I’d like the battery to last as long as the cards do but that’s asking too much.
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 20, 2021 13:07:39 GMT -5
I’d like the battery to last as long as the cards do but that’s asking too much. I've been looking into this. Thinking about trying a power bank like THIS. It's 26,800 mAh. That's 10-15 GoPro batteries. Not sure about the 7, but for the 9 I'd have to get DOORS to allow USB plug-in. They can be used with or without the battery, at least for mine. Check for sure if you are interested. There are a couple of things that I'm uncertain of. First; using without a battery is supposed to reduce heat and allow the 9 to avoid shutting down.... but if the USB connection came loose it would lose all power vs just going to batt if it's in place. With a batt in place it should be very reliable if heat isn't a problem. Second; it's easy enough for a scoot mounted cam. I can put a pack under the seat or in my storage box or whatever. The power bank is small enough to fit in a jacket without bugging me I think, but I'm not sure about cable connection from helmet to jacket. I guess running the cable to the side or back would probably be fine. One pack could even power 2 GoPros, but I'd likely do a pack each so I shouldn't have to worry about it at all. Oh, and waterproofing. With an opening, the 9 is no longer waterproof. I think some PUTTY could help seal it enough to not worry about going through a little puddle though, and may keep the cable more secure. Not sure if I wanna do it or just hope taking mine out of cases works. It's at least tempting to do it for my rear cam. Price is basically the same as buying more batteries, which I'll do if I don't go that route. I may just wait till I get my foam covers in and set a GoPro out with a batt and see what it does with no air moving.
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Post by ryan_ott on Sept 21, 2021 7:43:09 GMT -5
I’ve been thinking about doing that also not for heat issues but just for the pita factor of changing batteries. You’d think they could make a camera for quick changes but guess that’s asking too much.
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 23, 2021 7:23:57 GMT -5
I've been running a bunch of tests with one of my GoPro Hero 9 cams. Trying to figure out how to make it more reliable if I'm in hot weather and not moving fast all of the time.
I did some testing with 3 different batteries, initially thinking the batteries and their heat were my problem. Then started using USB power to see how that changed things, with no battery or side cover installed. All in the house because conditions are much better controlled for all tests. Ambient temps ranged from 74-76F. I kept a ceiling fan on for all tests so the air is not totally still, but there is very little air moving around the GoPro (sat in the same location every time). Filming at 4K60; what I have been using.
Case. My normal setup, used since day 1 owning Hero 9s and I used the same kind of setup with my Hero 4s for years. GoPro in a housing with a hole in the back and the back covered in faux fur to eliminate wind noise. I did have to cut an additional hole in the housing for the USB cable to pass through.
Foam. I picked up a foam cover for older GoPro Hero 5-7 models. The Hero 9 foam covers have a cutout on the front for the screen, which some say lets wind in around the mics. The whole point of the foam is to block wind noise, so I used the older version of the cover that only has the cutout for the lens on the front.
Open. Just the GoPro with nothing attached.
For USB tests, I turned the camera off if it made it to 2 hours. Temps were measured at the hottest point on the GoPro (always found just above the screen on front) and hot spot of the battery (when installed).
Case Life : 39-46min batt & USB Case Temp : cam 142-144, batt 141 Foam Life : 24-31min batt & USB Foam Temp : cam 150-152, batt 143 Open Life : 80-82min batt, 120min USB open Temp : cam 129-130, batt 140
These tests showed me that the batteries are not my issue. As batteries are used, some do have significantly shorter times, but for my tests the batteries were not causing very short film times. Some of these batts have 60-70% charge left, so the cam is definitely not shutting off from battery capacity when it's not even making it an hour. Heat from the cam itself appears to be the problem.
I was surprised that the foam did so poorly. It looks like the foam insulates the camera even more than the plastic housing. Open is clearly the way to go for cooling, but that would result in lots of wind noise without adding faux fur covers to all mics (commonly called dead cats).
While looking for info about batteries and overheating, it was common to see the answer that removing the battery would allow the GoPro to stay much cooler. This has not been the case for me. I didn't really see any difference. Seeing the large empty metallic space and leaving the side door off that covers it, I would have expected it to do something. I guess the battery soaks up as much heat as the open air does. I think this just shows us why things need to be tested. Intuition isn't always accurate. Perhaps airflow into the open cavity would cool it better, but that would leave the camera very susceptible to issues from moisture.
I wanted to see what happened if I put a fan in front of the GoPro. Maybe the foam would allow enough flow to provide better cooling than the case. Every time, I let the fan blow on the front of the GoPro to simulate my helmet cam facing the wind. I used the low setting on my fan, hoping to simulate in-town speeds rather than top speed cooling. I've only used USB here, since seeing that batteries weren't my biggest problem when wanting to film for an hour at a time.
Case Life : 2hr Case Temp : cam 117 Foam Life : 2hr Foam Temp : cam 114
I haven't done a cam only check yet, but airflow allowed both to stay cool enough to run for 2 hours before I shut them down. Foam appears to be slightly better once air is moving.
At this point, it looks like the only way I could expect a big improvement would be to leave the cam in the open and/or make sure it has airflow. I can't do much about airflow when traffic is stopped or slow. Leaving it open may not work well for wind noise. I may have to do some separate wind noise checks at some point. Another thing to consider here, is that there would likely be much more heat on a hotter day with the sun shining on a camera. That was proven at the bike show. In my tests, the case setup without airflow lasted 39-46 minutes, but my cams were shutting off in under 30 minutes even with movement on the scoot.
Another common solution offered to people with overheating GoPros is to reduce the resolution and/or frame rate. I want to film in 4K. I like the quality. I output my vids in 4K30, but film in 4K60 because it would lend itself to better slow mo if ever needed and the last time I filmed in 30 and 60FPS to compare (probably 5 years ago with the old Hero 4s), I liked the look when filmed in 60FPS better. I may have to retest. A lot of people like 24FPS and try to create a cinematic feel and motion blur, but I don't.
I've only done a few tests, but 4K30 may offer some very slight temp decrease. I'm going to try 1080P60 and maybe 1080P30 as well. I won't film in those resolutions, but I'm curious to see how much difference it makes.
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 26, 2021 14:55:14 GMT -5
I put a new coolant temp sensor in T2 this weekend. The gauge was going to "---" at times. So far, so good.
Since I usually post about all of the OC car shows here; H2Oi was this weekend. I didn't want to get near that place after last year's traffic redirection, largest police presence ever there and one of the largest deployments of troopers ever in the state, a whole huge parking lot just for tow trucks and cops, tons of impounds and big fines... and it still ended up in people filling the streets, a bit of a riot, and the police eventually shut the town down and ordered everyone to go inside with the help of basically every officer that could respond anywhere nearby.
This year, they made it clear that there would again be a huge police presence. They made it clear that high fines and impounds would be common. They said they had other plans if needed, beyond what they did last year. People that owned homes and condos in the area were urged not to rent for the weekend. Some hotels raised their prices and one person posted that they couldn't get anything in the town for less than $1,000 for the weekend. Plus, a lot of people had no desire to be a part of what last year was. I'm up for some burnouts and red light drags, wrong or not, but it went way too far and I think people that benefited from chaos for their social media posts and after movies really helped drive it to that point. Fireworks in the middle of a crowded street while someone does donuts is not the sort of thing that just happens totally unplanned... with drones and pro-level camera rigs right there to capture it.
It looks like it worked. Nowhere near the amount of cars or crowds this year. All local news has covered it and interviewed people. Basically the cops hit the people that they could find with modifications hard right from the start with impounds and fines. By Friday afternoon/evening, some people were already afraid to ride around. They became spectators. Crowds of spectators are great for getting dumb stuff to happen... but there's no show if everyone is a spectator and if you are out there I'd guess most don't want to risk it. The odds would be very poor with the amount of cops there vs cars. I looked at the traffic cam one day and 6 police vehicles pulled over and towed 1 car.
There were still some cars out, and I'm sure things still happened, but it looks like OC and the police put a stop to H2Oi this year. The part that worries me is how long before they decide to do the same for the sanctioned car shows? They already have been more aggressive, but they haven't gone all out like H20i enforcement... yet.
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Post by captincvmn on Sept 26, 2021 15:56:43 GMT -5
I’m glad I missed it.
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Post by captincvmn on Sept 27, 2021 5:56:04 GMT -5
What came of the Chinese Vforce reeds?
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