Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates

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Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 12, 2011 23:13:50 GMT -5

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Post by 2strokd on Aug 12, 2011 23:13:50 GMT -5

Yeah, good point. Ide be looking at the temp and such too.

Hey, your temp ever get above 302? Jason,s and mine wont. Just noticed on his ride last night after he burned the block down with it. Took about 3minutes or so before it cooled down below 302.
Kinda silly that they stop working in the most important area.

lshigham Scoot Pro Luke Posts: 1,121	Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 13, 2011 3:53:35 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by lshigham on Aug 13, 2011 3:53:35 GMT -5 For an AC with a cast iron cyl, 302's good, especially with the numbers you're getting.
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Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 13, 2011 5:45:31 GMT -5

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Post by 90GTVert on Aug 13, 2011 5:45:31 GMT -5

No, mine never topped 302. I thought that was odd that I got to 302 exactly a few times not 301 and 303 or some variance. Damn, now I'm scared. lol It does cool quickly below that though so I don't think it could be far over.

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190mech Scoot Master! Peace Pipes Posts: 8,470	Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 13, 2011 5:55:17 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 190mech on Aug 13, 2011 5:55:17 GMT -5 Glad to see T1 up and running again!I'm always loosing those aerosol can straws too,,now I know where they are going! :rofl:

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Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 13, 2011 7:08:32 GMT -5

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Post by 90GTVert on Aug 13, 2011 7:08:32 GMT -5

Well, T1 is down and out again. lol I took a ride this morning. I had passed 2 cars and was cruising at 60 and bwwaaa. Coast, smell rubber. I always feel like an ass passing people then breaking down. Kinda like when the people pass you in a snowstorm and then you see them in the ditch a mile away. lol I assumed the belt ate it again and kinda hung then released since it rolled smooth. Temp is at 302. I tried to kickstart it and it didn't wanna fire up. I pushed it a bit and checked the temp and it was at 285. Fired up after about 5 kicks and I rode home. It was acting odd though and not wanting to hit very easy after it died. Got up to 68 on the GPS. Not bad for a CVT that's not modded to go as fast as possible (like the setups that kept snapping belts).

Last Edit: Aug 13, 2011 7:09:45 GMT -5 by 90GTVert

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Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 13, 2011 8:36:27 GMT -5

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Post by lshigham on Aug 13, 2011 8:36:27 GMT -5

Aug 13, 2011 7:08:32 GMT -5 90GTVert said:

Well, T1 is down and out again. lol I took a ride this morning. I had passed 2 cars and was cruising at 60 and bwwaaa. Coast, smell rubber. I always feel like an ass passing people then breaking down.

Been there, done that. Did a rather quick/risky overtake and the carb decided to fall off :lol:

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90GTVert Administrator Posts: 41,620 Location: Preston, MD	Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 13, 2011 8:48:15 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 90GTVert on Aug 13, 2011 8:48:15 GMT -5 lol Well at least I still have my carb. There's always a bright side I guess.
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Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 16, 2011 19:28:36 GMT -5

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Post by 90GTVert on Aug 16, 2011 19:28:36 GMT -5

I checked the plug on T1 from the last ride and it's dark chocolate. I swapped up to a 105 main from a 102 anyway. I made it about a mile before it died. It wasn't hitting the same with the 105 either, probably rich I guess. I was watching the temp and it was only 288 when it died, but it rose up to 302 as I coasted. I think it can't keep up with how fast the engine heats up. Once it got back down to 296 I fired it back up and rode home. That plug was dark too.

I checked for leaks around the carb and intake with propane, but couldn't detect any. It idles smooth, runs strong (or did with the 102 main anyway), and has no symptoms right now other than soft seizing. I'm starting to wonder if this is just too much for an AC setup or something. Maybe a case leak? Not sure. Seems fine at part throttle to ride around, but get it kicking in at WOT and it just doesn't wanna run long now. Damn this thing. I just wanna ride for a change.

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190mech Scoot Master! Peace Pipes Posts: 8,470	Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 16, 2011 21:14:45 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 190mech on Aug 16, 2011 21:14:45 GMT -5 Maybe an ignition failure due to heat soak?Once it cools,its OK...I know Chevy's will do that when the ignition module is crapping out..Just a thought..... :stumped:

90GTVert Administrator Posts: 41,620 Location: Preston, MD	Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 16, 2011 21:30:02 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 90GTVert on Aug 16, 2011 21:30:02 GMT -5 I guess I could carry an extra plug and check real quick when I overheat whatever is overheating.
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Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 25, 2011 10:29:44 GMT -5

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Post by 90GTVert on Aug 25, 2011 10:29:44 GMT -5

I'm thinking the last soft seize was my fault. I let it warm up to about 180 idling, but I was hard on it as soon as I started moving really. I do that a lot with my other scoots, but then they are a lot more forgiving than this thing.

I took it out the other night to ride it more normal and let it heat up more gradually. I ran it about 5 miles and it was up in the 270s being pretty gentle, just rolling at 50 or so. I pushed it up to just over 60 with WOT a couple of times and got the temp to about 298. I was still using the jet a size too large btw, and it didn't wanna rev too much. Topped around 10,000 RPM. I had let off and was starting to slow and the belt snapped. I thought I had taht figured out when I swapped to a Hoca vari that wasn't modded to such an extreme.

Last Edit: Aug 25, 2011 10:31:18 GMT -5 by 90GTVert

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190mech Scoot Master! Peace Pipes Posts: 8,470	Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 25, 2011 11:43:58 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 190mech on Aug 25, 2011 11:43:58 GMT -5 NOT AGAIN!!!! :doh: :beatup: :banghead:

ravensguildassasin Scoot Enthusiast Posts: 175	Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 25, 2011 17:28:09 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ravensguildassasin on Aug 25, 2011 17:28:09 GMT -5 best pic i could find to describe you r scooter and belts. OR this
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90GTVert Administrator Posts: 41,620 Location: Preston, MD	Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Aug 25, 2011 17:36:10 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 90GTVert on Aug 25, 2011 17:36:10 GMT -5 :lmao: I've busted more belts than a buffet.
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90GTVert Administrator Posts: 41,620 Location: Preston, MD	Triton # 1 (T1) : Liquid Cooled Conversion & Updates Sept 3, 2011 18:52:26 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 90GTVert on Sept 3, 2011 18:52:26 GMT -5 I fixed the belt and decided to go to a friend's house on T1. As usual, that didn't work out so well. My ear hurts and I'm ...
	Brent Life is better at high RPM.