Venus 50 (Now 96cc!)

[190mech]

Cant you slide the OEM throttle cable elbow into the Dellorto straight adjuster?That way it'll screw off..I ended up using a piece of stiff 3/16 plastic tubing(nylaflow) instead of the elbow,made adjustment easier!

[90GTVert]

Maybe, never tried. I had the Arreche screw on around so I just used that. lol

[2strokd]

Wonder what the "real" diff is between the two?

[90GTVert]

Jets came in today from Scootercraft. I swapped the 50 pilot out for a 40. Stuck my hand over the mouth of the carb and it fired up after a few kicks! I stuck the airbox on and had to adjust the mixture screw all the way in, so I'll need to swap to the 35 pilot. I took it around the yard, but it's WAY out of tune at the moment.

[90GTVert]

I hate aftermarket carbs and stock cables...

I had the cable setup so so, but there was just a tiny tiny bit of slack I couldn't take up at WOT and still be able to close the throttle to idle. I coulda adjusted the cable so it would idle a little higher and it woulda taken up all the slack at WOT, but that just annoyed me knowing it wasn't quite right.

I decided to take John's suggestion and use the adapter from the stock carb and just slide it in so it would spin around instead of having to spin the whole carb to remove the top. That was too long to work right with the cable setup.



Then I decided that I could get more throw without the stock junction box if I just used a pinch bolt to connect the 2 stock cables together. I made a makeshift pinch bolt and tried that a few ways. I could make it work, but it was kinda half-assed IMO and I really didn't like it at all that way. I've read about other people usuing pinch bolts a lot, but it ain't for me or I'm not using it the right way. Maybe both. lol



Then I figured I would buy the Motion Pro cable like the one I got for T1. Provo, where I got the first, was out of stock and I couldn't find one elsewhere. I looked around for an alternative cable that had an adjustment at each end as well as a central adjuster with no luck. All I could really find was this cable from Moped Hospital.



It came in today, but the ends are different for the Venus throttle compared to most others so it won't work as-is.



"Oh well, I can mod it." ... or can I? I got it filed down to fit in the throttle housing and it would partially turn to lock itself in.



Well, I decided to see just how far it would turn so maybe I could keep a real tight fit. Bad decision. I guess I pushed a little too hard to lock it in.



This is supposed to be easy... but somehow I have a gift for overcomplicating things at times. I guess I'll just bite the bullet before long and buy an aftermarket housing and cable for it. The problem is, now I can't find an appropriate cable with an adjuster built in. I guess I could get a kit and make a cable, but I used to be able to find the cables I want for about $20 and they worked well. Now I can't seem to find those.

[190mech]

Dont sweat it!We built our own cables for years.Save the throttle end,most of the new type cables have molded ends,but the old school stuff had soldered ends made of copper,just take a sharp pair of dykes(no! not the gals,diagonal cutting pliers ;D) and cut the carb end of the inner cable off,carefully slide the inner cable out and have your way with the outer cable,then slide the inner cable back in,flux the cable and solder on a homebrew end(small copper tube(1/8"oil pressure line from Autozone)),use a big solder iron or small propane torch...If soldered correctly it cant be pulled off!!

[90GTVert]

Thanks for the tips John. What has bugged me is that I used to be good at this stuff. lol I made cables to fit any carb I put on my little bikes. I made cables for an old custom kart project. Made cabes for the little bikes that had cable brakes. I think I used to use solder on barrels, but it has been so long I can't remember. Now I can do so much crap I couldn't then, but I can't get a cable right to save my ace.

[2strokd]

Like John said!
Ahh ya just had onna those days .
I got a pinch bolt that was way to big. I ended up grinding it down to fit in the throttle end. Then when i got my length right i tightened the pinch and soldered the cable to it for extra security. It was a PITA at first but very rewarding in the end.
You will get it

[90GTVert]

The new tail light came in. I like it. It's not as tiny as I thought and it is pretty bright. Thanks to those that helped me make a choice in the other thread.

Old & New


Tail


Brake


Tail & Turn

[2strokd]

Thats purdy :thumb:

[90GTVert]

Thanks.

Thanks to John for the cable making tips. I haven't got one made yet, but I see how now. I was having a hard time figuring out how to solder the ends on.

I picked up a foot of 1/8" brass tubing from a hardware store for less than $1.



I decided to practice on an old cable first to make sure I didn't screw up the one I plan to use. So I started trying to get solder to stick to the cable first, to see how hard that would be. I tried using a couple of kinds of solder and two kinds of flux and heating with an iron and heating with a torch and cleaning the cable. Nothing. Eventually, I came to my senses. I know this is how I used to do it, just not sure why it took so long to remember. The fact that many people use solder pots rather than irons made me realize this.

I fluxed the bit of brass tubing and held it in a set of vice grips. I heated the brass with a torch. Then I used silver bearing solder to fill the tube. As you can see, I was a bit sloppy and soldered the brass to the vice grips. No biggie, just heat for a second and it'll come off. The solder will either chip off of the grips or you can heat them quickly and remove it.



Then I fluxed the end of the cable. I heated the cable and the end in the torch at the same time. Once they were hot, I stuck the cable into the hot solder inside the brass tube. After holding it there for a few seconds, the solder cooled and I had a sturdy connection. I tried pulling it off with way more force than a throttle should ever exert and it never budged.



I had to grind the end off to make it fit. I shoulda used a tubing cutter for a clean cut of the brass tube, but since it was practice I chopped it off with dykes for speed's sake. Now that I know what I need to do, it really isn't that hard at all. I think finding the right length will be harder than attaching ends.

[2strokd]

Right on brutha :thumb: :cheers:

[WT100]

Those lights look great. Glad you went for them.

[190mech]

Great job Bernt!!You always do a wonderful job of documenting your work so everyone can learn!!THANKS ;D

[90GTVert]

Thanks. I've got more pics than that, just saving them for a how-to for the archive. ;D Judging from this experience, I may forget and need this stuff again myself!