Went down in full view.

[duosport]

Look at the quantity of bolts to hold the cover in place. The cover is not holding liquid in so there is no need for so many bolts to retain a good seal. The only reason they would put so many bolts into what is in essence a dust cover, is if it is more than a dust cover.

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Jul 7, 2010 9:17:43 GMT -5 2strokd said:

I kinda thought that from the begin too...
I was kinda thinking that ha slid on the slick, then when the scooter "bit"
on the grippy stuff, SNAP goes the crank case???

That sounds the most plausible. I've slid the back out a little on turns. It's a little weird feeling, but you can slow up before it slips out. Maybe it slipped and caught too hard and broke. Like I said, I've taken the turn plenty of times before like that without issue.

One counter-point to that argument would be the fact that the pipe has a big dent from the rear shaft bolt holding the wheel. This would leave to to believe, since I fell on the right side, that the pressure from the pipe, while sliding on pavement, bending and pushing on the rear wheel bolt, coupled with hitting the curb, broke the case.

Sucks that I didn't have it on camera. We'll never know. I sometimes ride like I have nothing to live for, pushing the boundaries for no reason. It's just as likely that there was no sand (there was though), no case breakage, just me leaning to far on a small bike with small tires around a turn too fast for my skill level.

I hate putting all the bolts in. I mess with my CVT all the time so it's a real pain in the ass. I rode to work today with my spare motor with only the center bolt again I'm too stubborn, I guess.

So yeah. I ordered a new case half from partsforscooters.com. Part number 161-151. I can't get a link cause the site seems to be down.

It was sent to the wrong address. My secondary paypal address, which happens to be 50 miles away at my old house. Well, shit... I guess that's an honest mistake. Except, it happened last time I ordered from them too... :stumped: Must be a paypal error.

I asked my father to pick it up for me since he would be down that way. He picked it up and I asked him what it looked like. He said it was a cube about 8" by 8". That didn't sound right. So I asked him to open it for me. I explained to him that it should be at the minimum a 17" wide package. He said, nope. Not even close. He opened it and I asked him what it looked like. He tried his best to explain what it looked like, but it wasn't easy. I asked him if it looked like the part that I had broken on my scooter last week. He said, "not even close".

Got it here today and checked it out. I can't get the PFS site up, so I can't show you what they sent me on their site to see if the part number is even close, or what. I looked else where and discovered that it's a right crankcase half from a 150cc GY6. You've got to be kidding me. I wouldn't mind so much if the damned thing didn't have like 3 quality control stamps on it. I also wouldn't be so upset if they had sent maybe a Minarelli right side crank? If it was me at my job and I did something like this, I doubt I would have much credit from my peers. That just seems like a lack of knowledge. Maybe it's a new guy. I dunno. Here are some photos, including the invoice which clearly states the part number, description, and even check marks over everything to signal that they were at least trying to make sure it was the right part. The check marks kinda pissed me off :rant:











I know, it's probably an honest mistake, and I shouldn't be as upset as I am. Just really ticks me off that I'll have to wait another 2 weeks after sending this back, and waiting for theres to come, because some one didn't do what they are paid to do, correctly.

[90GTVert]

2 weeks? Did you call them? PFS is usually fast and very easy to get along with if something goes wrong on their end. I'm guessing someone just checked that off by realizing it looked like a case half and not looking farther.

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Jul 7, 2010 21:26:28 GMT -5 90GTVert said:

2 weeks? Did you call them? PFS is usually fast and very easy to get along with if something goes wrong on their end. I'm guessing someone just checked that off by realizing it looked like a case half and not looking farther.

Well I figure one week for it to ship to them, another for them to ship it back. I haven't called them, I just got home about an hour ago and doubt they would be around to answer. Don't have a number either, as their site is down right now.

I agree. The check marks look like they were all done at once really quickly. I just need to relax. Long day at work, pretty stressed out.

Everyone makes mistakes.

[90GTVert]

IIRC they let me ship at the same time as them so it was quick. One way to find out...

1-866-478-8700

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Thanks for the number. I finally got the site up, and the lines are open until 6pm EST. I'll give it a shot when I get off work tomorrow. I'll definitely call them so I can speak with someone before shipping it. I hope it all works out similarly to your situation.

[2strokd]

I cant believe your still only running one bolt!

[drawkward]

Lol. Very very temporary. Literally only running it for 2 days. Maybe all together 5 miles, then I'm taking off my CVT and putting it on the motor which should be coming sometime today, hoping that all goes well. My luck, this 40QMB will be another FM in disguise, or something else, and I'll be stuck with the 50cc for a week or so.

Once I get a semi-permanent setup going, I'll have all the bolts back in!

[drawkward]

Just spoke with Julio at PFS.com and after I explained what had happened, he immediately responded by saying he would ship out the correct part as soon as possible. Hopefully today, but if not then first thing tomorrow morning. They will also be sending along postage for me to send back the wrong part. Great service, all is well.

He asked who QC'd it, and I told him. I felt really bad giving the guy up like that, but I had to

[drawkward]

Holy crap. Not good...

Got then engine in. I have no idea what the hell to think. It's very different from anything I've ever seen.









Start is on the bottom, rear wheel is two parts...?, intake is solid metal facing the rear, with two tubes coming out of it going to what looks like an oil pump, rear shock mount position is over the clutch, not at the rear of the case.

Anyone ever seen one of these before?? This is NOT a 1E40QMB as stated on the eBay ad, at it doesn't look like one to me.

[drawkward]

Upon closer inspection I've discovered that it is a completely proprietary engine made by TGB. Every single part says TGB. The stator connections, fan, fan cover, oil pump, head, cylinder, piston, EVERYTHING is slightly different then any 1E40QMB. Nothing will work from it with anything I own. FML. I'd better be able to return this thing.

[90GTVert]

Have you popped the covers to see what the CVT is and what is under th fan shroud or just looking at what we can see in the pics?

[stepthrutuner]

You try it in your frame?

[drawkward]

I took the fan covers off. The head is quite different. The bolts are about 5mm closer together all around.

The cooling fan has only two screws holding it on. I didn't even look at the CVT.

I believe it would fit on my frame. The top mount is exactly the same size, the only thing that is weird is the rear mount is about 5 inches closer forwards. Seems like the rear shock would be sitting more straight up and the scooter would sit a little higher.

I took it all apart and immediately put it back together because I want to return it and don't want any issues (missing bolts, yadda yadda).

I believe I could make it work on a scooter, but I'm positive there is just about nothing I could do with it performance wise - besides maybe CVT and transmission stuff. The head and cylinder both have TGB stamped onto them.

I just did a little search, came up with this link. This is exactly the cylinder.

www.cens.com/cens/html/en/product/product_main_41778.html

says the cylinder dimensions are 41x37.4

I don't want to take it apart again. You guys know about this type of engine?

[2strokd]

Wow :stumped: ! I wondered about TGB,s motors? We have a local dealership that sells TGB but i never go there because all the employees are :censored: ! They think anything and everything BUT what they sell is junk!
That makes two engines now that you have taught me something new about drawk! :idea: Sorry it has to be like that tho !
I know nothing about that style engine