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Post by spaz12 on Apr 21, 2017 16:03:27 GMT -5
Have you emailed them to ask what's up with that?
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Post by tsimi on Apr 21, 2017 18:09:15 GMT -5
Not yet. But will do.
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Post by tsimi on Apr 21, 2017 18:52:02 GMT -5
Wrote them an e-mail.
My guess is same cheeks, different rod.
The Replica looks exactly same and has the exact same specs except for that rod.
Price is also similar.
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Post by 190mech on Apr 21, 2017 19:49:48 GMT -5
Selecting the proper colored connecting rod gives top tuners 2 additional HP!!  |
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Post by tsimi on Apr 21, 2017 20:45:31 GMT -5
Selecting the proper colored connecting rod gives top tuners 2 additional HP!! Let's hope so I can use every hp I can get. :-) |
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Post by ThaiGyro on Apr 25, 2017 4:31:21 GMT -5
It is very depressing to learn that Stage6, a German "Manufacturer" is using China to build their parts. I should not have been surprised. Explains quite a bit of their responses to my technical enquiries. They just did not know the answers. Sad. You pay high end cash for potential good quality...then you see this. Questionable.
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Post by tsimi on Apr 25, 2017 5:08:33 GMT -5
Some of the Stage6 stuff look like RPM stuff others like Koso.
They just stamp the Stage6 name on it and voila price just went up by 25%
Not sure about crank, pipes and cylinders though.
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Post by spaz12 on Apr 25, 2017 5:23:19 GMT -5
The R/T crank is made by Massimo Tedeschi (2Fast). Stage6 suspension and brakes are made by RPM, which is a Taiwan company. Their cylinders have been made by a few manufacturers like Athena for the MkI cylinder, questionable for the MkII cylinders, but in collaboration again with 2Fast for the R/T cylinders.
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Post by tsimi on Apr 25, 2017 19:20:57 GMT -5
Funny, since I asked them for an explanation regarding the R/T rep number stamped on the crank I haven't received any reply yet. I wasn't complaining at all, just asked for an explanation.
Last time when I was complaining about their packing and shipping quality they replied quickly telling me they forwarded my message to the logistics department.
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Post by tsimi on Apr 26, 2017 8:58:45 GMT -5
Update on the crank issue.
After a couple e-mails we found out that I have a unique R/T crank.
It is a R/T crank there is no doubt about it, silver rod and all. The stamped number however is the Replica number.
As I thought the only difference between the R/T and R/T Replica is the rod and the price.
The crank body itself is identical, same checks and splines. Even technically they are same, max. 20000rpms
So case closed. On to next things then....
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Post by PIG on Apr 26, 2017 9:01:38 GMT -5
So it cost more for the different coloured rod? What a bunch of crap that is.
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Post by tsimi on Apr 26, 2017 9:05:43 GMT -5
PIG Not only because of the color they are different in material. Silver = Forged steel Bronze = Copper? The price difference is small between the cranks, something like 15 Euros at the moment. But if you would buy the forged steel rod alone it would cost 137 Euros. 137! for a forged steel rod, wow. Anyways, price was fair. Silver rod is installed. It is a 85mm crank. So all good here.
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Post by Lucass2T on Apr 26, 2017 10:13:22 GMT -5
No rods are made from copper haha! Just looking at them would make them bend already hah! Its just some sort of bronze colored finish, 190 def knows why. They're cast btw. Cheap but it does the job.
The metal colored ones are forged. Thats why the metal color, a mill went over it.
And the rod makes the crank. The crankwheels are all the same, just a round piece of metal with an axle at the end. The rod takes all the beatings and a forged one takes a cnc machine to produce and thus labour intensive.
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Post by tsimi on Apr 26, 2017 16:54:23 GMT -5
No rods are made from copper haha! That's why my question mark.  |
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Post by 190mech on Apr 26, 2017 19:16:15 GMT -5
The copper colored connecting rods are forged steel,then a thin copper plating is applied before heat treatment as it keeps the steel from surface scaling during heat treating,,The silver rods are billet and are discribed below by Wobbly on the KiwiBiker forum here; www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner/page1417"The Samarin and TM factory rods are fully CNC machined from billet, there is no hard skin as we see from the forging process. Not having to do the forging process is a huge saving in die and manufacturing cost, for relatively small runs of product. In this case the heat treatment is vitally important. But for big factories the accurate as forged rod needs minimal machining, a big saving when huge numbers of lowly stressed parts are involved, and the heat treatment cost can then also be minimized. Hot Rods as another example do both, forging then alot of machining, and then do the shot pein as well, and this proves economical ( and technically superior ) when reasonable run sizes are involved." |
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