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Post by 190mech on Mar 12, 2017 15:26:25 GMT -5
YEP!Thats the 'ears' that need to be cut,bent,redrilled,or whatever to make that CRAPPY pipe fit!!
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Post by pinkflames420 on Mar 12, 2017 16:25:24 GMT -5
Here Is a quick 1 minute video. I wasn't really able to take a picture with my iPad and the other hand holding the exhaust up. I definitely need to work on my camera skills lol and don't mind my mumbling. The exhaust seems to stick out quit a bit. I couldn't post my video on photobucket, how I prefer, so had to do it through YouTube youtu.be/4cwPYsVzgpA |
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Post by oldgeek on Mar 12, 2017 16:34:23 GMT -5
Thats not too horribly bad. I would tighten it up at the exhaust flange making sure to align it at the exhaust flange properly, and see where it ends up. a couple spacers and some flat metal hangers and you are good?
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Post by pinkscoot on Mar 12, 2017 16:42:56 GMT -5
I agree with Old Geek. Maybe with spacers and a new hole in the bracket you could get the lower one to mount up. I'd get the exhaust attached to the cylinder and see what you have.
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Post by 190mech on Mar 12, 2017 17:10:01 GMT -5
OKAY!We have a visual,The muffler exhaust flange holes need to be slotted to bring the pipe closer to the engine,,I like a chain caw file for this,,Here is an illustration I made for a member a few years back,his problem was opposite of yours,but I think you'll see slotting it in the opposite direction will get the desired results..Then do whats needed to the rear muffler 'ears' to bolt it down..  |
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Post by pinkflames420 on Mar 12, 2017 17:55:12 GMT -5
OKAY!We have a visual,The muffler exhaust flange holes need to be slotted to bring the pipe closer to the engine,,I like a chain caw file for this,,Here is an illustration I made for a member a few years back,his problem was opposite of yours,but I think you'll see slotting it in the opposite direction will get the desired results..Then do whats needed to the rear muffler 'ears' to bolt it down.. Thanks 190! You guys are pros! Definitely giving me higher hopes that I don't need to get rid of this kit/or have to pay someone to fabricate a new bracket. Wish we had portals so I can bring you over here really time LOL I see most of you are suggesting I tighten the bolts all the way in and see EXACTLY where it wants to sit. What's the cheat to holding the exhaust up and not cracking the flange/and or screws? Or might be just one of those things...BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL. I made a quick drawing, tho yours is far better. Just to confirm. pinkscoot what do you mean by flat metal hangers? One more, do you guys suggest I get a longer bolt? And spacers, the flat round ones or more like a coupling type spacer piece?   |
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Post by 190mech on Mar 12, 2017 18:01:25 GMT -5
Correct on your drawing,,Yes, longer bolts with a stack of flat washers may be needed on the rear mount..Please use NO exhaust gasket when fitting,once fitted correctly with nothing under tension,disassemble and install the gasket..
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Post by pinkflames420 on Mar 12, 2017 18:29:46 GMT -5
Perfect! That sounds like something I can accomplish forsure. Much thanks to you 190, for taking the time to write back so promptly. Maybe even get something figured out for the other bolt. I suppose probably a flat metal bar type thing bent something like this... | <---this side to the upper bolt | |______ | | <--this side to bracket Everyone's really easy going up here, I can go rummaging through the dump and grab whatever I want heheheee Im gonna go to the store in the morning and hopefully get this sorted out! Update you guys soon. Thanks again,  |
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Post by pinkflames420 on Mar 13, 2017 12:27:48 GMT -5
 Let's see what I come up with!! Btw, that's ALOT of washers. Is anyone familiar with torch brazing? I was considering doing a braze on this little stack of washers if possible. I know some of you REAL welders will probably tell me just to get a welder, but i have an old washer sitting in my neighbors yard and I'm totally down to chop it up with my angle cutter/grinder and make something for the upper part of my bracket. I know 190 made a pipe out of an old washer , so I'm wondering if I can make a bracket from an old washer. I'm all in!! Of course if the brazing technique will be alright for this. If not then just tell me to forget that thought!! Okay I just wanna chop up a bunch of metal  |
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Post by 90GTVert on Mar 13, 2017 13:57:42 GMT -5
I don't think the thin material from a washer is suitable for a bracket supporting the weight of the exhaust. Maybe you could use multiple layers(?), but I'd buy or find some 1/8" or near that steel or a little thicker aluminum. Even if you have to buy it, enough plate for a bracket shouldn't be very expensive and you'll know it's capable of lasting.
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Post by 190mech on Mar 13, 2017 15:07:36 GMT -5
Brazing is cool!I use that method all the time,when fitted properly,its as strong as welding.. Ahh,but an old washing machine has a frame and a motor and attach brackets to the transmission,,plenty of good pickings there!!  |
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Post by pinkflames420 on Mar 13, 2017 19:50:22 GMT -5
I don't think the thin material from a washer is suitable for a bracket supporting the weight of the exhaust. Maybe you could use multiple layers(?), but I'd buy or find some 1/8" or near that steel or a little thicker aluminum. Even if you have to buy it, enough plate for a bracket shouldn't be very expensive and you'll know it's capable of lasting. Yeah I was kinda wondering about the thickness of the washer myself. I agree the aluminum sounds best to use. It would definitely look nicer. But I think My options may be limited for this one. I'm literally out in the bushes/mountains. lol I might be able to scrounge a thicker piece off the washer.....like 190 mentioned they must have a frame so I think that might be a good option. I wasnt sure if our auto parts store would really sell metal pieces like aluminum so I thought of the washer right away. Would be good practice and kind of a learning stage. I'm really excited to try this new braze welding technique!  The plans for the upper bolt on the bracket will happen most likely later in the week as I'll be helping the hubby out at work. Hmm maybe Ill find something there! Heheheeee |
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Post by pinkflames420 on Mar 13, 2017 21:48:02 GMT -5
From this...too this... SO CLOSE! a little more filing and I think I'll be golden  Thanks to you guys Been doing a lot of receiving on here, definitely bout time to give back    |
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Post by pinkflames420 on Mar 17, 2017 12:23:19 GMT -5
Yay ! It started up and had it running for about a 30seconds....then it sloooooowly bogged out. The only way it seems to even start is if I'm holding the throttle wide open and holding the starter for like 3-4seconds ,which is a long time, then I let go of starter button and keep holding throttle. It'll just barely stay running on its own for a second or 2 then dies again. It'll do this every time I try, which was probably about 5 times. I stopped. Squish is veeery high @ 1.7mm so I'm gonna chuck the copper gasket. Sorry guys I totally forgot about taking a video until afterwards! I was just eager to hear something! Maybe check port timings today so you guys can get a better feel for what's going on here. If can't figure out something today I think I'll make a new post for this, probably in the performance section. wish me luck |
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Post by AtariGuy on Mar 17, 2017 13:27:09 GMT -5
Much luck! Did you get a leak tester on it? Slow bog/dying could be a/f mix escaping below the cylinder
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Thanks to you guys 
