heedehcheenuh
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Post by heedehcheenuh on Jun 5, 2017 14:30:28 GMT -5
Gears are in and much better. 60 mph (GPS) in a head wind. They had 12/40 gears in it; stock setup. Lower rpms for the runs so far all under 8000 rpm and just riding. No more 8000-9000 rpm runs lol. I knew the gear change would do the trick. Now to finish breaking here in to see if I need to tweak the motor or if she can handle the runs and load. 3.33 final gear ratio stock to 2.31 ratio performance gears. She is not as buzzy sounding or feeling running 55 mph up hill and smooth as can get. i hope to get a camera set up to record some of the runs showing the GPS and Chinese speedometer with the tachometer in one shot. I have a cheap NABI camera but no mount yet. Heedehcheenuh Chuck D Ride on.....  |
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heedehcheenuh
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Post by heedehcheenuh on Jun 5, 2017 16:03:25 GMT -5
Just went back out running 62.8 mph GPS in the head wind tucked and grinning lol yes things work out when you plan around a setup that you want. She is not as snappy out of the hole anymore, just smooth, and lowered the rpm down so now I can calculate the rollers/sliders - tires- and cold air adjustment I want. I may put the baffle back in the exhaust to see if there is any difference with vrs without it.
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heedehcheenuh
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Post by heedehcheenuh on Jun 16, 2017 17:09:23 GMT -5
OK I hit a wall ... sort of. I have done a few runs and she has maxed the torque and speed at 50-53 mph (GPS) up hill around 7000-7200 rpm. Do I need more air / fuel / or both? Lets say stock is 24mm and I am looking into the polished intake with a 26mm-28mm (not to large) carb to get more air and both carbs can be had with jets to richen or learn her out (I prefer rich to save motor). Also what is up with the cam ratios?!?! I know small block Chevy cams- heads-intake performances but I am new to the scooters lol. I know the gear ratio will be best for the BBK in the future but right now I am looking at carb / intake / air filter to change that will work with the 150cc and be adjustable with the BBK in the future.
I have been down and out for over a week now (R.A. has kick my butt big time) from my left knee and leg being swollen the size of a volley ball. The motor is sill not broke in yet , still under 500 miles, and I want to ride ... so bad. The weather also has been picking at me but hey that happens living in the south east.
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heedehcheenuh
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Post by heedehcheenuh on Jun 22, 2017 12:01:13 GMT -5
youtu.be/tEtDyKi9cpoLink to video of me doing a test run. I was riding and my nephew was behind me but I did not know who it was. Hit the turn before the bridge running 58.3 mph GPS (caution 45 mph turn) and the death wobble started lol I know better than that. Maybe getting ready to change gears again and do a variator weight/roller (not sliders) change. She rides good and adjusting to her real good. Trying to set my torque up in the right spot. Heedehcheenuh Chuck D Ride on.....
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Post by heedehcheenuh on Jun 23, 2017 18:56:31 GMT -5
Ok test are in. Wish I had videoed the runs.
1st change on rollers- 3x6g + 3x8g rollers total gave me 7g set...10,000 rpm max and saw 60 mph GPS.
2nd change on rollers- 3x9g + 3x11g rollers total gave me 10g set...8,000 rpm max and saw 58-59 mph GPS.
3rd change on rollers- 3x8g + 3x10g rollers total gave me 9g set.....9,000 rpm max and saw 58-59 mph GPS.
Very windy day here so speeds are off a lot. Gust upwards of 10-15 mph I think.
No gear change yet just trying the roller weight tune kit to figure what rollers to order. Hoca variator came with 12g set x6 but did not try them yet. I need a gram scale lol The Hoca gears are setting in the bottom of the tool box and have not been looked at yet. Did SSP-G buy Hoca out or the other way around? SSP-G is a German based company so quality should be good...I hope. The stock variator rollers had some bad ..and I mean bad flat spots all around them.
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Post by jackrides on Jun 23, 2017 23:15:29 GMT -5
What tribe and nation? My wifes'sister is born on the res Lakota Souix. I think most scoots are intake restricted to reduce noise. Open up the intake, keeping the airbox, and rejet. They really do need valve adjustments at 1000 niles, and when stated thereafter.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 24, 2017 6:13:19 GMT -5
Did SSP-G buy Hoca out or the other way around? SSP-G is a German based company so quality should be good...I hope. Here's a post from a PartsForScooters employee after someone her asked about the brands. Yes, HOCA is going away as HOCA Taiwan has closed up shop. HOCA purchased their engine parts from Charmo Taiwan, so in the meantime we have some Charmo branded stuff in stock as we transition all of the Taiwanese made performance stuff to the SSP-G brand. In short: HOCA = Charmo = SSP-G. All good Taiwanese stuff, and we stand behind all of it. |
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heedehcheenuh
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Post by heedehcheenuh on Jun 24, 2017 8:12:20 GMT -5
What tribe and nation? My wifes'sister is born on the res Lakota Souix. I think most scoots are intake restricted to reduce noise. Open up the intake, keeping the airbox, and rejet. They really do need valve adjustments at 1000 niles, and when stated thereafter. I am from the Carolinas. My family consist of Tuscarora-Cherokee and Onondaga. I will get the DNA test done later to find out what it list for sure later. My Grand Father was Cherokee Grand Mother was Tuscarora on my moms side of the family and my Father was Onondaga but he was adopted when he was little and we have yet to research his family line all the way. I may Go with the cold air kit soon (Open air filter) but everyone says the motor is not broke in yet and the power has yet to come around. I have checked the valves once and will check them again after the 1000 mile mark. With my disability and this weather we have had it is hindering my tinker time lol Heedehcheenuh Chuck D Ride on..... |
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Post by fugaziiv on Jun 27, 2017 9:19:40 GMT -5
Did SSP-G buy Hoca out or the other way around? SSP-G is a German based company so quality should be good...I hope. Here's a post from a PartsForScooters employee after someone her asked about the brands. Yes, HOCA is going away as HOCA Taiwan has closed up shop. HOCA purchased their engine parts from Charmo Taiwan, so in the meantime we have some Charmo branded stuff in stock as we transition all of the Taiwanese made performance stuff to the SSP-G brand. In short: HOCA = Charmo = SSP-G. All good Taiwanese stuff, and we stand behind all of it. Just for the sake of clarification: The SSP-G performance scooter part brand is wholly owned by my company Universal Parts / PartsForScooters. When HOCA closed, we decided to create SSP-G in an effort to continue to bring the quality Taiwanese parts that HOCA was known for to the US domestic scooter market. It's an ongoing process at the moment, but anything that has the SSP-G brand on it is at least HOCA quality or better. Matt |
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heedehcheenuh
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Post by heedehcheenuh on Jul 1, 2017 16:19:49 GMT -5
First good day to ride for me. She purrs like a kitten. Running 55-60 mph (GPS) with little wind it holds 8,000-8,500 rpm steady. Hoca variator and 9g Hoca rollers 18x14. I noticed when I run down the speed and throttle back up .. sometimes it crackles and takes off. Is the rollers to light or is the exhaust to open? All I know is she is smooth fun right now. Monday I may go get a 2006 Honda Reflex with 4,000 miles on her for $1,250-1,500 it depends if they get it running. Car lot has it and forgot about it. Kelly Bluebook says trade in is still $2,200 in good shape. Now that my friends is a sweet deal if I can fix the carb/clean the fuel tank/get a battery.
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Post by lazarus on Jul 5, 2017 18:42:38 GMT -5
Hi Chuck I'm newer than you to this forum but like you no young buck when it comes to spanned work just that 95%of mine was on two strokes I also have rusty bones and AS so only ride scooters newer days also been building computers for twenty years then went to collage at 52 to prove to customers I was qualified In IT now I just teach I.T I really miss the wind in my hair over here in England the helmet law means no lid no ride so helmet for me too I'll be following your tuning progress when my last scooter unexpectedly died (crank broke) and I was broke I have for the first time in my life ended up with a 50cc scooter that really needs tuning up 39mph just don't cut it but my new kit arrives on Saturday so I'll be working on it as much as my back allows with help from some club members as always ride safe Chuck My scooter is a Scomadi TL50 I'm not sure if they are in the USA yet they are like a Lambretta on steroids  |
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 5, 2017 18:44:54 GMT -5
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heedehcheenuh
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Post by heedehcheenuh on Jul 5, 2017 19:17:52 GMT -5
Hi Chuck I'm newer than you to this forum but like you no young buck when it comes to spanned work just that 95%of mine was on two strokes I also have rusty bones and AS so only ride scooters newer days also been building computers for twenty years then went to collage at 52 to prove to customers I was qualified In IT now I just teach I.T I really miss the wind in my hair over here in England the helmet law means no lid no ride so helmet for me too I'll be following your tuning progress when my last scooter unexpectedly died (crank broke) and I was broke I have for the first time in my life ended up with a 50cc scooter that really needs tuning up 39mph just don't cut it but my new kit arrives on Saturday so I'll be working on it as much as my back allows with help from some club members as always ride safe Chuck My scooter is a Scomadi TL50 I'm not sure if they are in the USA yet they are like a Lambretta on steroids Welcome aboard. Yeah as an old mechanic all I want to do is tinker and eat greasy(oil covered hands) sandwiches lol. I have had a blast with this thing so far. US 4th of July I went on a, to me, 40+ mile run to Harbor freight to pick up some goodies. My son followed me to bring the stuff back. I even passed a car/suv while running 55 mph (GPS) as they seemed to be out for a Sunday ride as we say down south here. I was conversing with some friends at another forum about my set up and the told me the muffler I am running may be better than stock but not the best for my scoot...so I may get a better performance muffler setup soon. Cold air kit will be next to see why I have some type of flat spot running 53-55 mph (GPS) at 3/4th throttle and nothing from there. I can rotate the throttle to full and she sounds like she is starving for more fuel/air. All is good though because she runs fast and fine. Check out my youtube channel also. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEtDyKi9cpo&t=1sI will post more videos soon. This R.A. (Rheumatoid Arthritis) keeps putting me down and out every now and then. The whole purpose for me is fun..fun..fun.. Make the scooter last and show that you can get speed,performance and reliability out of a Chinese scoot with out breaking the bank lol. I have in the past burned out tires and motors in hot rods just to build another. Thanks for joining in and have fun..... Heedehcheenuh Chuck D Ride on..... |
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heedehcheenuh
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Post by heedehcheenuh on Jul 5, 2017 19:44:16 GMT -5
I want to thank @90gtvert for putting up with me and my big cc bike..I know it says 49cc but we are all two wheel fun runners.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 6, 2017 4:26:51 GMT -5
I want to thank @90gtvert for putting up with me and my big cc bike..I know it says 49cc but we are all two wheel fun runners. Heedehcheenuh Chuck D Ride on..... I ride a 500cc regularly and just got rid of my 150. All are welcome here. |
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