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Post by pitobread on Dec 21, 2017 5:02:38 GMT -5
Scooter tuning also has 5% off for members, and 10% off for xmas. And they also usually do a 15-20 after xmas  |
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Post by Raizer on Dec 21, 2017 5:04:44 GMT -5
Awesome! Might attempt to hold off a few days then!
There international shipping prices seem to have improved majorly since I last checked them out!!
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Post by Raizer on Dec 21, 2017 6:31:29 GMT -5
Scooter tuning also has 5% off for members, and 10% off for xmas. And they also usually do a 15-20 after xmas Ummm.... Might have just ordered the clutch... and a few other things...  |
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Post by ThaiGyro on Dec 21, 2017 8:42:04 GMT -5
Hey Raizer...regarding the airbox. We have tried the karting plastics from a few sources. My belief is that they are designed for noise, rather than performance.
Think about this: You have a cylindrical container...with an intake hole or two. What does it do INSIDE? If it is just a wide spot in the process, it is possibly not helping.
Many do pod filters...cheap, easy, nice looking. Not fuel, nor performance enhancing.
I do air boxes...ugly, and harder to understand, but worth every penny, (for fuel consumption) or every dollar, (for end result performance.
The bottom line is that high performance air boxes are "two stage". That means different things. Primarily, you suck in air, then filter it, before the whole carb thing.
Secondarily, our experiences show cleaner power through rpm ranges, when using a "two stage box" with the filter at the inlet, instead of the mid-point. Pressure volumes are somewhat similar, but with any given vacuum...you will have a slightly higher pressure at the carb inlet, if the filter is moved to the box nozzle or better yet...in full air stream.
Conventional thinking is the other way around. HP in nozzle, dropping after filter. The variable is not hard to measure, but in high humidity climates, it is huge! Note: that factor does not reverse itself. It simply becomes too small to worry about.
Here in Thailand, we prefer to stuff as much air into the box as we can....the filter doesn't affect that much. The reed flapping controls the "pulses"...the box maintains some "excess" pressure because the inlet has no direct effect from the reed function.
What we do...scoop in air to an external filter (in direct air path or in an external plenum), then via corrugated tubing enter the box bottom...the transfer from low to high is a water drain point; Then the air curves up violently to the upper/secondary chamber, which should be a tad smaller to increase volume/pressure...then the carb inlet bell/velocity stack...boom-yada-yada-yada-zing!
Many theories here. Many success stories. I am sure that few can match the tuning simplicity. Your air/filter size make zero/less difference in inlet mode. Box values become more consistent. (Except for super ugly humidity) Even altitude variances are lessened.
That all being said...it's a tiny engine. Efficiency variable factor is in your pocket cash.
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Post by pitobread on Dec 21, 2017 9:38:29 GMT -5
Scooter tuning also has 5% off for members, and 10% off for xmas. And they also usually do a 15-20 after xmas Ummm.... Might have just ordered the clutch... and a few other things...  Clutch, Taida Ignition, 21mm Polini. Am I close? |
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Post by Raizer on Dec 21, 2017 15:15:43 GMT -5
FFS!
Scooter tuning advertise the wrong international shipping price to attempt to sell more, got a message earlier that shipping was a fair bit more than I'd paid so they have cancelled the whole order.
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Post by pitobread on Dec 21, 2017 16:26:20 GMT -5
Bummer.
That happens to me a lot on American websites. Shipping on the site is not the same as what they charge. I feel your pain.
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Post by tsimi on Dec 21, 2017 16:46:26 GMT -5
FFS! Scooter tuning advertise the wrong international shipping price to attempt to sell more, got a message earlier that shipping was a fair bit more than I'd paid so they have cancelled the whole order. This is no surprise. I wanted to tell about that. The guy that builds the General Grevious Aerox in Australia also had the same problem. He ordered hoses for his LC build and they asked him later to pay additional shipping fees which made the total price ridiculously expensive. I also placed an order recently there for a couple small parts and they didn't charge additional fees. One thing is sure that is bad business strategy. |
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Post by Raizer on Dec 21, 2017 17:09:09 GMT -5
Have got it sorted now, still rather soured by the whole experience though!
Apparently once the total in your cart reaches a certain amount the shipping price drops drastically, the customer service rep I was talking to said it's a known issue and has been happening a lot.
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Post by tsimi on Dec 21, 2017 18:28:19 GMT -5
Have got it sorted now, still rather soured by the whole experience though! Sorted? Sorted as in you know the reason for the order cancellation. Or sorted as in you were able to pay the difference and continue the order? |
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Post by Raizer on Dec 21, 2017 18:50:41 GMT -5
Have got it sorted now, still rather soured by the whole experience though! Sorted? Sorted as in you know the reason for the order cancellation. Or sorted as in you were able to pay the difference and continue the order? Sorted as in I know the reason behind the issue and have replaced the order as 2 seperate orders (1 in my wife's name and parents address for customs purposes). Has cost about $70 more than it started but still about the best deal I can find with fast shipping. Was kinda thinking about seeing if you could pick up a pipe for me at some point and sending it over, wouldn't mind something a bit nicer than the hacked one I put together! Can't really do anything until I've got my refunds from WeBike and the cancelled ST order though. All the parts I'm buying twice aren't going to waste either, everything I'm swapping out now like the variator etc will be finding their way onto Plan B lol ThaiGyro I agree about an airbox being the way to go, have a Uni filter type pod on my Suzuki, main gain I noticed was a LOT of noise and yeah she likes a drink of petrol! spaz12 I'd have to mount that kart filter to the engine cases rather than the frame, on the Gyro I've got the up/down swingarm motion just like a 2 wheeler but I've also got a lot of tilt in the swingarm too, I can lean it over further than my Suzuki in tight corners and the rear wheels stay flat on the road haha |
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Post by pitobread on Dec 22, 2017 3:02:22 GMT -5
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Post by Raizer on Dec 22, 2017 3:31:29 GMT -5
Now you've really caught my attention!
Looking on Racing Planet the speedfight 2 head gasket cross references with Dio and a lot of other Honda models, so that should confirm the stud spacing.
Gyro crank bearings and seals are shared with Dio.
Would be very interesting to get hold of a Peugeot crank to compare.
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Post by pitobread on Dec 22, 2017 4:06:06 GMT -5
Yeah if they share the headgasket spacing, there is your answer, I know the Speedfight 1/2 is 47mm and the Dio. So if the Gyro is the same as Dio, Boom.
The speedfight 3/4 should be the same... but it's unconfirmed. but it would also probably work.
I just put 2 of those liquid cylinders on my Spreedio
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Post by pitobread on Dec 22, 2017 5:27:22 GMT -5
The only other hitch is what size wrist pin do your scoots have?
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