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Post by harleyracer59 on Oct 18, 2019 11:04:02 GMT -5
Update: I've sent the aluminum billet to a friend , he'll make a plug for the oil pump. Had a look at the picture posted previously and I could not find any oil port near the oil pump / crankcase, so it's still a mistery. Might the Giorno be different than Dios? I think I was wrong goodkat. im sorry. I must of been thinking of another engine than yours. I looked at your pics and I don't see the port I was talking about. af18 has it but af16 doesn't. I guess af24 doesn't also. I must have had a few too many beers that night? lol all honda engine # equate to different engines (except af05e aero/spree confusion) but anyways, I think the original dio was an af18. since then, any other honda engine that has same bore/stroke configuration gets lumped into the "dio" category. simplifying part searching. because cylinders, manifolds, exhausts, ect are all interchangeable for the most part. so your engine and other similar engines are put into the "dio" category. have I confused you yet? lol no? well, honda tried to confuse us even more by changing carbs, bystarters/choke, cdi mapping, vacuum ports on the same engine # between different country's. an ab07 tact in japan has the same ab07 engine as a UK melody, and US 1st gen aero, but US got a bigger carb, electric choke, better cdi than the melody and japan cousins. which for those trying to restore or replace parts with stock parts it becomes a pain in the ass. I learn all these differences taking these stock parts off and notice the little differences while im hot rodding them because a performance big bore kit, or a performance manifold/ bigger carburetor will easily fit on all 3 of them. sorry for the long response, I hopefully helped you understand where these confusions come from or why they occur. time to open another beer, this was exhausting.. lol  |
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Post by goodkat on Oct 19, 2019 13:54:44 GMT -5
No worries harleyracer59. You helped me a lot. Hopefully on Monday I'll get my hands on the plug so next week probably I can install it. Few more parts are here, piston pin, top end bearing, safety rings etc. Hopefully by changing them, that weird noise will disappear. Need to buy some more things, clear fuel hoses, a filter, etc. Next week the intake manifold from CA will be at my door. Also, I was thinking that MAYBE, in the future I could try a 4T engine swap, but something bigger...maybe a 125 or at least an 80cc. The wet dream would be a 125 motorcycle engine swap...Was thinking at the CBR125 engine but there would be lots of custom parts to be made and it's liquid cooled. |
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Post by harleyracer59 on Oct 19, 2019 17:30:35 GMT -5
No worries harleyracer59 . You helped me a lot. Hopefully on Monday I'll get my hands on the plug so next week probably I can install it. Few more parts are here, piston pin, top end bearing, safety rings etc. Hopefully by changing them, that weird noise will disappear. Need to buy some more things, clear fuel hoses, a filter, etc. Next week the intake manifold from CA will be at my door. Also, I was thinking that MAYBE, in the future I could try a 4T engine swap, but something bigger...maybe a 125 or at least an 80cc. The wet dream would be a 125 motorcycle engine swap...Was thinking at the CBR125 engine but there would be lots of custom parts to be made and it's liquid cooled. don't you dare go slow poke 4 stroke!!!!! check out 190mech dio build. his stroker dio is close to 100cc I think. you can build a dio to 125cc I believe. and a 2 stroke will run circles a round any 4 stroke of the same cc any day any time...… then again, if you do decide to go 4 stroke, ill buy you af24  lol. bottom line is 2stroke is just a better more compact faster platform for these little scooters. research that idea before you go down that path.  |
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Post by 190mech on Oct 19, 2019 19:01:09 GMT -5
Thanks harley!I saw this a few hours ago and figured a 2stroker would reply with the truth..A 70cc street kit 2 stroke will spank a 150 4 poke all day long..Yeah a 2 stroke burns more fuel,but it fires every stroke,unlike a 4 poke which has a dead stroke to recharge itself...If you want a 4 poke why not go big and buy a Helix 250 and give harleyracer that worthless 2 stroke scoot...  |
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Post by goodkat on Oct 19, 2019 23:23:41 GMT -5
No worries harleyracer59 . You helped me a lot. Hopefully on Monday I'll get my hands on the plug so next week probably I can install it. Few more parts are here, piston pin, top end bearing, safety rings etc. Hopefully by changing them, that weird noise will disappear. Need to buy some more things, clear fuel hoses, a filter, etc. Next week the intake manifold from CA will be at my door. Also, I was thinking that MAYBE, in the future I could try a 4T engine swap, but something bigger...maybe a 125 or at least an 80cc. The wet dream would be a 125 motorcycle engine swap...Was thinking at the CBR125 engine but there would be lots of custom parts to be made and it's liquid cooled. don't you dare go slow poke 4 stroke!!!!! check out 190mech dio build. his stroker dio is close to 100cc I think. you can build a dio to 125cc I believe. and a 2 stroke will run circles a round any 4 stroke of the same cc any day any time...… then again, if you do decide to go 4 stroke, ill buy you af24 lol. bottom line is 2stroke is just a better more compact faster platform for these little scooters. research that idea before you go down that path.  Ok ok ok, don't shoot! I need first to get used to the 2T stuff. By the way, I was looking at exhausts. All the exhausts I was looking at, they see to be made out of mild steel (I was expecting stainless) or if they are advertised as Stainless, the welds look like are made with mild steel wire/electrodes. I'm guessing an exhaust for a Dio would fit my engine, right? The standard exhaust I have is heavy as f*ck. I like my builds to be as light as possible (but still in a decent budget). Another thing I'd do to my scoot...swap the wheels, I saw some nice looking alloy chinese wheels from ebay at a decent price (150$). Other ideas? Regards, |
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Post by goodkat on Oct 20, 2019 1:51:18 GMT -5
One more thing. There is a Dio ZX that is being parted out here. I'm wondering if the forks would fit my build. I'd like to have a set of hydraulic forks, with disc brake on the front. My doubt is that the Giorno forks are angled and the dio forks are straight...thinking about wheel to frame clearance. Ideas?
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Post by pitobread on Oct 20, 2019 2:23:46 GMT -5
CH250 motor is a decent swap into these... heavy though.
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Post by goodkat on Oct 21, 2019 6:15:43 GMT -5
CH250 motor is a decent swap into these... heavy though. First I'd like to sort out the suspension and wheels. Any input over this matter? |
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Post by goodkat on Oct 21, 2019 16:04:28 GMT -5
The oil pump plug is done. Now need to install it. Also made 3 stepped washers so the rear rack doesn't sit on the fairing. Besides this, it adds a little bit of bling.😁  |
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Post by harleyracer59 on Oct 21, 2019 19:06:46 GMT -5
that's fancy! I like how it centers the base also. now get it together! then get on your bad motor scooter and ride!  |
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Post by goodkat on Oct 21, 2019 23:18:23 GMT -5
that's fancy! I like how it centers the base also. now get it together! then get on your bad motor scooter and ride! Thanks harleyracer59, I tried to reproduce the shape of the pump minus the gear, but I'm afraid it will be a winter-long project. If everything goes according to plan, will do a full resto mod: new wheels, suspension, freshened out everything, powdercoating the frame and a new paint on the fairings. Hopefully it will be a head-turner (a budget one tho 😁). |
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Post by goodkat on Oct 23, 2019 13:55:49 GMT -5
Had a bit of time and managed to install the plug. Fits like a glove. Need to make a bracket and fix it with a bolt.  Things are moving, slowly but surely |
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Post by harleyracer59 on Oct 23, 2019 19:49:09 GMT -5
looks good. maybe you can use a flat plate with a hole and then attach it where the pump bracket originally attached at the top of that machined face. clean and simple. |
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Post by goodkat on Oct 23, 2019 23:19:04 GMT -5
harleyracer59 yes, this is what I want to do. 😁 just to make sure it doesn't spit it out.
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Post by goodkat on Oct 24, 2019 7:08:57 GMT -5
pitobread harleyracer59 - Guys, I will hange the splitted throttle cable with a simple one. Any ideas of a cable that would fit my style of carburetor that is 2.1-2.2 meters long?
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lol. 
Ok ok ok, don't shoot! I need first to get used to the 2T stuff. By the way, I was looking at exhausts. All the exhausts I was looking at, they see to be made out of mild steel (I was expecting stainless) or if they are advertised as Stainless, the welds look like are made with mild steel wire/electrodes.
