Honda Giorno / AF 24 - First scoot

[goodkat]

Hey, everyone! I created this topic to keep track of the build and mods that are being made on my scooter.

As some (few) of you know, from the "Lobby" section, I bought and brought home my first scooter ever.

It's a 1998 Honda Giorno AF24 (In the papers it's also mentioned as "Tact" even though as far as I know they are different models.)

- Overall aesthetic condition: pretty good, except some dings on the plastics here and there and a cracked fairing.

- Overall mechanical condition: starts excellent, no bird's nest in the electrical system.


Bad points:

1. I CAN'T FIND A REPAIR MANUAL ON THE ENTIRE INTERNET - Preferably an English version. I don't know the maintenance intervals, what and when to check, viscosity of the transmission oil etc.

2. After transporting it to my house, the scooter starts and it's pretty revved since the wheel starts spinning pretty fast. I don't know what is the issue but I can guess that it's the throttle cable since the throttle grip is turning pretty hard so I think it's asking for replacement.

3. The speedometer cable is broken, needs to be replaced

4. I want to replace the brake shoes for front and rear along with the brake cables. I don't know the compatibilities between different models that might help me.

5. I don't know where to source parts (brake shoes, cables, air filter etc.) except the stealership (and not sure they can provide the parts I want)


Things that I did:

- cleaned all the mud in the harness,
- did a general check-up 
- fixed the threads that were holding the headlight still,
- removed the front shocks covers and cleaned the rusty shocks - lots of dirt and grime (might need replacement in the future, but for now they look miles better)

Things to do:

- need to clean, lube and adjust the brake cables, brake shoes, air filter
- need to source the aforementioned parts
- fit an universal front fender  since the standard one was cracked on all sides and will require a replacement in the future.


Future plans:

- Fit a new fork if it's possible, disc brake on the front, along with a new (for me) set of wheels from a different scooter probably. As you can see in the pictures below, the fork rake is not in a straight line with the steering stem, so I don't know if a straight fork type will fit.

- A full strip of the frame, powder coating the bits, re-assemble and turn it into a head-turning machine...as much as I can.


So...If you guys can help me with info regarding my build and technical advices, I'm all ears. Thanks in advance!


Here are some pictures of it, including the way of transporting it for about 200 miles.

[goodkat]

Part numbers for future references:

Front brake shoes: 06430GY1922
Rear brake shoes: 06430GY1922
Speedo cable sleeve: 44830GAM690
Speedo cable innards: 44831GZ5000
Throttle cable: 17910GAM000
Front brake cable: 45450GAM691
Rear brake cable: 43450GAM691
Air filter: 17205GAM690

[Raizer]

"1. I CAN'T FIND A REPAIR MANUAL ON THE ENTIRE INTERNET - Preferably an English version. I don't know the maintenance intervals, what and when to check, viscosity of the transmission oil etc."


Look up AF18 Dio for that, they run pretty much the same engine I believe.

[jbjhillbilly]

Sept 15, 2019 16:35:26 GMT -5 Raizer said:

Look up AF18 Dio for that, they run pretty much the same engine I believe.

If it’s an AF18, doesn’t that make it a Dio?

www.motorscooterguide.net/Manuals/Honda_SK50_Service_Manual.pdf

[goodkat]

Sept 16, 2019 0:24:35 GMT -5 jbjhillbilly said:

Sept 15, 2019 16:35:26 GMT -5 Raizer said:

Look up AF18 Dio for that, they run pretty much the same engine I believe.

If it’s an AF18, doesn’t that make it a Dio?

www.motorscooterguide.net/Manuals/Honda_SK50_Service_Manual.pdf

Was going to ask exactly the same thing.  I found on this forum the SK50 manual, but as far as I know on the engine case the following it's written: AF24...

Is there anyone that can explain me the differences between these codes / updates made on them?

Regards,
Alex

[Raizer]

I didn't say the scooter is an AF18, I said they share an engine.

AF16, AF18, AF27, AF28 model Dio's all use practically the same engine, as well as several other models of Honda 2 stroke scooter.

[goodkat]

I understand. Will download the AF18 manual then.



This is my first scooter so the things are new for me, especially that it is a 2T engine. I had 3 motorcycles till now, the last one is still in my possession and I'm heavily modifying it.



Any things that I should look for when inspecting this kind of scooter?

[goodkat]

Today was a good day. I cleaned the front brake, lubed the cable, found the culprit for the non working speedometer (inside the front brake drum there is a drive gear with a little metal tongue that hugs gets inside the speedo cable). The metal tongue on my scooter is broken so I asume that I need a new drive gear).

Can you guys help me identify what the circled things are? All of them are located on the left side of the engine. Bracket is under air box, the two red-ish things are near the cylinder. Sorry for the low level focus of the picture.

[goodkat]

[jbjhillbilly]

Sept 16, 2019 1:38:00 GMT -5 Raizer said:

I didn't say the scooter is an AF18, I said they share an engine.

AF16, AF18, AF27, AF28 model Dio's all use practically the same engine, as well as several other models of Honda 2 stroke scooter.

Sorry. I meant a Dio engine.

[goodkat]

jbjhillbilly I thought so thanks! Any idea about the parts circled by me in the pictures above?

[jbjhillbilly]

Sept 17, 2019 1:30:21 GMT -5 goodkat said:

jbjhillbilly I thought so thanks! Any idea about the parts circled by me in the pictures above?

None, but harleyracer59 might have an idea about it. Pretty sure he’s got a few of those motors around.

[harleyracer59]

the first picture is too close up. kinda looks to be in the area of the oil pump. thats the intake manifold and reed block in the upper right if that pic,  im saying oil pump lines and pump throttle?  or starter plug?

second pic, the part with circles is how the stock air cleaner box bolts to engine. by the looks of your 3 inch radiator hose extension.  that might not be the correct air box.  
      take a couple pictures further away now so we can see  a better view of whats all going on.  

[goodkat]

harleyracer59 in the first pic there are like two cubes filled with a liquid as far as I can tell in a yoga pose looking under the scooter. Probably I will take down the fairings so I can have a more clear look.

Regarding the second picture, it seems to have the standard airbox (looking at the part fiche found online). I'll have a second look.

Thank you!

[harleyracer59]

Sept 17, 2019 7:24:42 GMT -5 goodkat said:

harleyracer59 in the first pic there are like two cubes filled with a liquid as far as I can tell in a yoga pose looking under the scooter. Probably I will take down the fairings so I can have a more clear look.

Regarding the second picture, it seems to have the standard airbox (looking at the part fiche found online). I'll have a second look.

Thank you!

  I laughed when I read that part about  the yoga pose! lol.  yes the little bit of the air box I can see does look oem.  its the radiator hose adaptor/spacer that doesn't look stock.  most Hondas ive seen have a grommet the slides over carb inlet, then air box attaches by screws or bolts to the cases some how.  honda doesn't usually use hose clamps to attach atleast on majority of scooters.  id bet if you remove your airbox. pull that 2-3" hose piece out. and set the air box onto the carb inlet, there will be 1 or 2 holes in the bottom of box that will line up with that mounting bracket. give me a minute ill post some pics.   
       as for the second mystery pic, I for got this scooter and the af18 have floor board gas tanks.  that's your fuel pump.  af 18 and 24 have a vac port up there.  where our us af16 was still gravity fed by a tank under the seat.    I got pics give me a second