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Post by FrankenMech on Jan 23, 2022 18:38:45 GMT -5
It is probably way too late to get your vaccine now that you have been in a cesspool hospital but get it anyway to maybe protect your family.
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Post by repherence2 on Jan 27, 2022 0:11:22 GMT -5
and now the Lt. Gov. of hawaii talking about Stealth Omicron. that's the new talking point, omicron BA.2. califronia, chicago. i bet in a day or 2 it shows up in hawaii.
pretty neat how omicron showed up in hawaii. a woman tested positive but had no prior travel. quite amazing if you ask me.
oh boy. never gonna end. Stealth Omicron.
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Post by repherence2 on Jan 27, 2022 1:05:36 GMT -5
Whatever your state of 'natural immunity' may or may not be it is better to not be selfish and get vaccinated and wear masks to do your part to slow down the spread of disease and help protect others that truly can not be vaccinated or are too young.
well, i been running these silly mesh bandana masks at work. we been operating as group for over almost 2 years. like i said, when we are around each other, what masks. but we play the game when we need to. even in my previous department when co-v came about, what masks? how many people within the "what mask" game down with co-v over 2 years. NONE. i have my own observational data. we all do at work. a lot of people see it. maybe you do dont realize the gravity of when i refer to the hot zone, but that's okay, that's how it goes for general population. you can cast doubt all you want, keep throwing rebuttles, bottom line is i live it on a daily basis. we operated for a year and a half unvacksed and no one popped hot. we got daily data. what have you? are you relying only on what you see or read on media? we got 2 years worth of data, all 7 of us.
there is a bug that is currently going around in hawaii. my coworker and his family got sick. everyone had some sort of co-v symptoms. his house has 4 people, his brother's house has 4 people, and his dad got sick. durations lasted from 1-5 days. but only his brother tested positive for co-v out of everyone that got sick, kids and all.
"...not be selfish and get vaccinated and wear masks to do your part to slow down the spread of disease and help protect others..."
you do you man. we do us. we been doing us for 2 years. we got infected at work at the end of 19 anyway, between thanksgiving and new years, long before quarantines and sanitizing of 2020.
aside from co-v, we got bigger fish to fry here on Oahu now that the Nayvee spilled jet fuel into our aquifer and contaminated it. who knows how many gallons of JP-8 was spilled in years prior. so in the grand scheme of things for us on Oahu, of what threat is co-v when our aquifer is contaminated with jet fuel. bound to die somehow. some people are afraid to die.
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Post by FrankenMech on Jan 27, 2022 1:22:39 GMT -5
It must be horrible to see conspiracies all around... As long as the virus is around it will continue to mutate, that is what life does. It changes to survive, to enter a new niche. When I was studying microbiology in college I saw a completely unknown new type of bacteria mutate from a type that would only grow at room temperature to one that would grow at body temp and the Ikenberries was born. It was my choice to name it after my professor. Radiation can do strange things, giant ants, giant spiders, Godzilla, etc etc etc. LOL
And yes, I know what a 'hot zone' is. I grew up in a 'warm zone', not as bad as a hot zone but my exposure was every day for 20 years. And my parents were in it for years before I was born. My father was in the fallout zone repairing facilities in Japan after WWII. He was heavily exposed.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 27, 2022 14:32:32 GMT -5
My mother's friend that I talked about earlier just finally got positive news that the path out of the hospital is coming. She's finally back to breathing mostly on her own with some sort of hourly boosters. She says just standing is difficult after the time in bed. They'll start working with her Monday to get her walking again and once she can walk and maintain an acceptable breathing/oxygen level she can go home. Even before she was admitted to the hospital, she was in bed at home for awhile and saying that she could only walk a few steps before she was out of breath so we're talking around a month already that she's been ill and most of it she couldn't really get out of bed. She's finally out of the hospital. Still not well and has to be on oxygen, at least for a bit. She may be able to return to work (at a desk) before too long if she has the energy. |
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Post by fly on Jan 30, 2022 2:14:00 GMT -5
I'm not going to get into it, but will just say my stance.
At first I masked up for me. I suppose to a certain degree I still do - but much less so. After awhile I was masking up for other people. I know it's for some reason divisive. A global public health crisis is a really tricky thing to deal with if discord is introduced. But, for me, it seems like the best thing to do for everyone is wear a mask to contain my heavier respiratory droplets. I do so voluntarily, as I would have hoped all would. Our greatest generation ran headlong into machine gun fire when faced with an enemy, this feels paltry in comparison.
I don't have any real concerns about the mRNA vaccines. I have some experience with viral epidemiology in the way of for some time working in a dengue fever lab as a medical entomologist under Dr. Zhiyong Xi - a rockstar in the field. Vaccines for *that* disease are extremely complicated and have compounding factors SARS-CoV-2 don't have. Speculating on what "might" happen in the future from the vaccines seems misplaced, to me.
I'm more worried about the long term effects of contracting the actual disease. We already know viruses have the potential to have long term ramifications - we are already seeing them with covid-19. In particular, evidence is pointing to some synergism with prior EBV infection in developing long covid. EBV being an excellent example of a virus that can have long term ramifications. Like being at a 32x increased risk of developing MS, along with being heavily correlated with other diseases like Parkinson's. So being infected with the virus is a vastly more risky unknown, in my own estimation.
It's been a couple years now, it's endemicising. I'm not too worried about contracting it in regards to an acutely negative outcome. I don't know if I've had EBV. I don't know what it could be associated with long term. I'd rather not have to wonder. But still, mostly it's for other people. I don't know if the person next to me in the grocery store has diabetes, pulmonary fibrosis, etc. And I don't know at any given point if I'm hosting it.
But I mask up now for the nurses, mostly. Hospitals are almost universally shitshows, and I think people by and large don't understand just how bad it is. My sister is a CVC-ICU nurse at a large hospital here in MI. There are still no ICU beds. Nurses nation wide were short-staffed *before* the pandemic. Now they're getting rolled over. Absolutely steamrolled. They're working non-stop, they're dealing with "people dropping off like flies," as one of my nurse friends put it. They're dealing with getting infected and re-infected. What was formerly one of the most trusted professions is being straight up abused. The burnout is unreal. When the pandemic phases out, expect to see a mass exodus of nurses. Many remain out of a sense of duty, and when that is gone they will be too. And that's just going to further damage our healthcare system and already non-existent safe staffing levels. This is not to mention the extraordinary emotional toll it's having on them.
And the last thing I'll say is this: It's not just about covid. We all know hospitals are packed with covid patients. Think about who that is displacing: people with serious maladies not from covid. The quality of care for other health issues is abysmal as compared to before the pandemic. Diseases that are onsetting in people as we speak aren't being diagnosed, existing patients are being effectively put on the backburner. The knock-on effects for *all* healthcare issues is tremendous, and effects everyone who needs any sort of healthcare.
So that's my stance. We've all got our own by now. There's nothing ideal about increased disease burden even after the pandemic. Everything about it sucks. Beyond this I personally won't engage. But I thought I'd share my own stance, just in the interest of providing an array of perspectives. Cognitive diversity is good.
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Post by messenger on Feb 11, 2022 14:10:54 GMT -5
last saturday i started feeling pretty ill with a very bad chest.
on sunday still no better so i did one of those home covid tests that they handed out a while back, it was negative (phew)
so i turned out for work monday morning, still feeling rough but ok to work, we are all masked up at work and social distancing is quite easy in the factory.
by tuesday stil very chesty and my voice started going, so took another home covid test just in case, again negative.
only just starting to feel normal today (friday evening)
looks like it was just an old fashioned chest infection or something like that.
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Post by milly on Oct 13, 2022 10:56:05 GMT -5
Covid booster at the surgery last night. Don't worry I am not turning into a lizard or picking up any strange radio stations yet. All good bar a sore arm this morning.
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Post by aeroxbud on Oct 13, 2022 14:54:31 GMT -5
Covid booster at the surgery last night. Don't worry I am not turning into a lizard or picking up any strange radio stations yet. All good bar a sore arm this morning. I had mine last Saturday. The next day I was going through the menopause! Kept getting the mad sweats. Then about lunch time onward, felt so cold. On Monday I was fine again. |
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Post by FrankenMech on Oct 13, 2022 15:15:59 GMT -5
I got my covid booster 3 weeks ago. My sore arm turned out to be bad, a localized reaction to the vaccine or to the fact that the gave me a pneumonia vaccine in the other arm at the same time, -who knows. The 6" diameter red spot faded in 10 days, the flu like body aches lasted about 2 weeks. More boosters may be over for me. I will discuss it with my doctor when I see him in December. In the mean time I am supposed to get a flu shot... BOHICA
Covid is on the rise here in KC. I still mask up but very few others do. My primary doctor specializes in public health so he is very busy. He has three or 4 high power nurses covering most of his regular patients.
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Post by 90GTVert on Oct 13, 2022 15:29:27 GMT -5
Got my updated booster and flu shot ~ 2 weeks ago. Day of was just 2 sore arms. Day 2 I felt pretty lousy with a headache, lightheadedness, briefly nauseated, general aches and pains. Day 3 I was fine.
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Post by snaker on Oct 13, 2022 20:30:18 GMT -5
I haven't followed this thread from the start, and it certainly has evolved since then. Here is a clip regarding a current European hearing involving the Pfizer CEO. In this video and in others she stated that Pfizer did no testing on the vaccine affecting transmission before releasing the vaccine and that Pfizer made no claims on that "science". They didn't have to because, essentially, they were waived from liability. I saw another video that claimed Pfizer has not done any of that testing to this day and have not even been collecting data. There are allegations that they are intentionally turning a blind eye. Other experts have claimed that even a "better safe than sorry" approach is nothing but a false sense of security and that basic sanitary practices are as good as its going to get. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMFrOIebS0k |
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Post by winner3ty on Oct 14, 2022 10:21:35 GMT -5
I haven't followed this thread from the start, and it certainly has evolved since then. Here is a clip regarding a current European hearing involving the Pfizer CEO. In this video and in others she stated that Pfizer did no testing on the vaccine affecting transmission before releasing the vaccine and that Pfizer made no claims on that "science". They didn't have to because, essentially, they were waived from liability. I saw another video that claimed Pfizer has not done any of that testing to this day and have not even been collecting data. There are allegations that they are intentionally turning a blind eye. Other experts have claimed that even a "better safe than sorry" approach is nothing but a false sense of security and that basic sanitary practices are as good as its going to get. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMFrOIebS0kI have never commented here because it would serve no purpose, everyone has different opinions on covid. although I agree with you, I dont think everyone here will. Cheers |
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Post by geoffh on Oct 15, 2022 9:36:20 GMT -5
Getting my flu and covid booster Tuesday,I,m a beliver,my wife (older and less healthy) has declined and is rolling the dice for now.
Geoff
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Post by aeroxbud on Oct 15, 2022 12:03:40 GMT -5
Getting my flu and covid booster Tuesday,I,m a beliver,my wife (older and less healthy) has declined and is rolling the dice for now. Geoff My wife isn't getting any more either. The last one made her really ill. She suffers with fibromyalgia, and it triggered the worst attack she has ever had. Just sat in a chair for two days in unbearable pain all over her body. |
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