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Post by Reign on Sept 27, 2011 20:54:27 GMT -5
I agree with everything that Brent said, except the last question. It may in fact be a Chinese tire issue, but it's just as likely that it's simply because there's no bar ends on the handlebars. The same thing happens in my Ninja at 65 to 70ish MPH. It gets in that exact area, and the handlebars start vibrating pretty bad. Even WITH the bar ends on. It would be much worse without them. My first suggestion would be a set of cheap bar ends. Just make sure they're weighted. Don't get aluminum ones just for looks. The weighted ones are the ones that will actually help with the vibration.
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Post by gy6luver on Sept 27, 2011 23:26:02 GMT -5
one of my valve stem caps has a valve core tool on it to take the valve core out, yours might as well. if not you will need to buy one. dunno if you have ever done a valve stem but you take the core out to let the air out instead of just pushing it in, that takes forever. take the core out of the new one too, in order to set the tire bead. once the bead is set then put the core in and put pressure to proper level. I use one of these to squeeze the tire together after the air is out in order to install the valve stems www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200323795_200323795eeps so i still need something to do the valve stems? or should i wait to see what kurvy sends me
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Post by gy6luver on Sept 27, 2011 23:27:31 GMT -5
they say 11 lbs as a "cover out butts" type thing, i wouldn't think twice about putting that trunk on. it should be fine. i know that rack looked VERY solid, but i wasnt sure, after all it wont be just the trunk on it, the trunk will have cargo in it, to the tune of some 40 pounds or so, still think its ok to use?
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Post by speedy1125 on Sept 27, 2011 23:30:48 GMT -5
they say 11 lbs as a "cover out butts" type thing, i wouldn't think twice about putting that trunk on. it should be fine. i know that rack looked VERY solid, but i wasnt sure, after all it wont be just the trunk on it, the trunk will have cargo in it, to the tune of some 40 pounds or so, still think its ok to use? yeah i think it will be fine. i have never seen a problem in that area.
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Post by gy6luver on Sept 27, 2011 23:31:44 GMT -5
I agree with everything that Brent said, except the last question. It may in fact be a Chinese tire issue, but it's just as likely that it's simply because there's no bar ends on the handlebars. The same thing happens in my Ninja at 65 to 70ish MPH. It gets in that exact area, and the handlebars start vibrating pretty bad. Even WITH the bar ends on. It would be much worse without them. My first suggestion would be a set of cheap bar ends. Just make sure they're weighted. Don't get aluminum ones just for looks. The weighted ones are the ones that will actually help with the vibration. Lol seems like everyone has SOMETHING else for me to buy lol, ok so your saying that i have vibration in ONE speed at very high speed which makes my handlebars shaek (btw its not unbearable its barely noticeable) that a set of bar ends will now fix that, care to share a link to where i might find them (scrappydawg or partsforscooters maybe) i am trying to avoid buying and paying shipping from every company on the web trying to be patient i know you all have my best interests at heart
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Post by speedy1125 on Sept 27, 2011 23:33:43 GMT -5
one of my valve stem caps has a valve core tool on it to take the valve core out, yours might as well. if not you will need to buy one. dunno if you have ever done a valve stem but you take the core out to let the air out instead of just pushing it in, that takes forever. take the core out of the new one too, in order to set the tire bead. once the bead is set then put the core in and put pressure to proper level. I use one of these to squeeze the tire together after the air is out in order to install the valve stems www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200323795_200323795eeps so i still need something to do the valve stems? or should i wait to see what kurvy sends me yeah a core tool. its not a 100% MUST have but its just faster is all. look at the caps that are on there already, one might have one on it already, one of mine does. you take the cap off and turn it over to unscrew the core.
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Post by speedy1125 on Sept 27, 2011 23:36:59 GMT -5
I agree with everything that Brent said, except the last question. It may in fact be a Chinese tire issue, but it's just as likely that it's simply because there's no bar ends on the handlebars. The same thing happens in my Ninja at 65 to 70ish MPH. It gets in that exact area, and the handlebars start vibrating pretty bad. Even WITH the bar ends on. It would be much worse without them. My first suggestion would be a set of cheap bar ends. Just make sure they're weighted. Don't get aluminum ones just for looks. The weighted ones are the ones that will actually help with the vibration. Lol seems like everyone has SOMETHING else for me to buy lol, ok so your saying that i have vibration in ONE speed at very high speed which makes my handlebars shaek (btw its not unbearable its barely noticeable) that a set of bar ends will now fix that, care to share a link to where i might find them (scrappydawg or partsforscooters maybe) i am trying to avoid buying and paying shipping from every company on the web trying to be patient i know you all have my best interests at heart is it so bad that you will have broken arms halfway to florida? does it bounce like a basketball? if not then dont worry about it, unless it just bugs the hell out of ya.
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Post by gy6luver on Sept 27, 2011 23:41:22 GMT -5
Lol seems like everyone has SOMETHING else for me to buy lol, ok so your saying that i have vibration in ONE speed at very high speed which makes my handlebars shaek (btw its not unbearable its barely noticeable) that a set of bar ends will now fix that, care to share a link to where i might find them (scrappydawg or partsforscooters maybe) i am trying to avoid buying and paying shipping from every company on the web trying to be patient i know you all have my best interests at heart is it so bad that you will have broken arms halfway to florida? does it bounce like a basketball? if not then dont worry about it, unless it just bugs the hell out of ya. no actually its only at a very high speed the mirrors shake (but they do that at low speeds and idle on a scoot anyway) it doesnt bother me at all the vibration is barely noticeable by the time it gets to my arms, its just the shaking on the front, dont even feel it in my body itself
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Post by speedy1125 on Sept 27, 2011 23:59:06 GMT -5
this is what should be on your scoot: they suck because they flex. it speed they bend, then when you slow down they bend back. this constant flexing combined with UV light very quickly degrades the low-grade chinorubber. one of the caps should have this on the top of it: Turn it over and unscrew the core like this: out goes the air.. woosh! take the clamp and break the tire bead... cut the old stem out. take the core out of the new stem and put the stem in. dont tighten down the new stem like a gorilla but snug it down good so the rubber compresses to make a good seal. take the clamp off, and put air in to set the bead. the reason you have the core out to do this is to shoot air in quickly to reset the tire bead..you may even hear it *pop* into place. put the core in and pressurize to 40psi. save the old core and the cap that has the little core tool built into it you just used....if you indeed have one. again the core tool and clamp are not 100% necessary but it sure helps. If you dont have a cap that has the tool you can get one at any parts house just ask for a schrad,er valve tool or valve core tool.
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Post by gy6luver on Sept 28, 2011 0:01:16 GMT -5
oh yeah speedy i have done tires before at my cousins garage, we used to take stems out of the cars of the mechanics when they pissed us off, no holes in the tire but also no way to reinflate it lol
i dont know if mine have that stuff on them tomorrow ill check though
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Post by gy6luver on Sept 28, 2011 9:09:04 GMT -5
well i am not the expert on these things you guys are, the valve stems seemedl ike a no brainer, im still on the fence about thechrome vents, however that being said i do think a oil catch can and recircualtor would be a good investment, especially on a long trip like this below is a photo of the one i am thinking of adding, thoughts as always? Positive Crankcase Ventilator Have, or are you removing your airbox?Is your scoot blowing oil? Have you run dry and don't know why? The reason may be that excessive pressure is being built up in your crankcase, which blows seals and/or pumps all your oil out the vent. This nifty device actually creates a vacuum within your engine by only allowing air out, and not back in. Made in the USA all steel construcion easily attaches to your vent line, which should be place above your engine as far as possible, and installed on the barbed nipple end. Threaded end is left open, or attached to a filter if you wish. This is a must if your running your scoot full throttle alot. New improved model. Cheapest performance fix anywhere at only $9.95 Crankcase vent/oil catch can Crankcase vent and oil catch can solves all your venting problems. Oftentimes, scooters and ATV's are run full throttle for extended periods under heavy load. This causes alot of pressure to be built up in the crankcase, which results in a heavy oil vapor escaping out the vent, or anywhere else it can find, like through your seals. This can blow enough oil out that you could run out of oil before you think to check the level. Adds another vent outlet by replacing your oil dipstick. Attaches to your existing line also. We highly recommend adding the PCV to the outlet of this unit also. One line attaches to the existing vent, the other to the new dipstick, the other to atmosphere via PCV valve. Easy installation with all hardware included. Works with any engine. Color may vary. $29.95
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Post by speedy1125 on Sept 28, 2011 9:15:23 GMT -5
yes the i would certainly do this.
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Post by gy6luver on Sept 28, 2011 9:18:18 GMT -5
yes the i would certainly do this. awesome, one quick ? can fuel line be doubled as vaccum line, i just spent 1.99 a foot on this fuel line im sure ill have extra
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Post by speedy1125 on Sept 28, 2011 9:22:42 GMT -5
yes the i would certainly do this. awesome, one quick ? can fuel line be doubled as vaccum line, i just spent 1.99 a foot on this fuel line im sure ill have extra fuel line can be used as vac line yes but vac line CANNOT be used as fuel line.
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Post by speedy1125 on Sept 28, 2011 9:39:15 GMT -5
again those 'vents' do nothing. the engine is cooled by a fan. those pieces are just decoration. get them for looks, not based on any cooling advantage because you wont get one.
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