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Post by lauriejennifer on Feb 13, 2012 17:22:07 GMT -5
I've gotten used to the shift lever as is, so I think I'm just gonna leave it. What I'm still stuck at is stopping without a clutch LOL I stall a LOT. Why? I'm used to blipping the throttle on downshifts. Combine that with the fact that I'm not timing gear down changes well (locked the rear once. LOL Glad I'm used to riding a motard), and you get a lot of fail.
It's weird to me that if you let the engine slow down enough, you can change gears without engaging the gears, but if you just need to slow down a little... Oh, it's hard to explain. I'm lost without a clutch, basically. LOL I'll get there.
I went to go play in the parking lot, but it was too cold to drag knee or anything. Had the front start to tuck on me a couple times, in fact. Can't wait for spring!
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Post by 190mech on Feb 13, 2012 21:10:48 GMT -5
Cool vid! When moving the shifter,the clutch disengages thru a cam linkage,holding the lever in full travel(either direction)releases the clutch..With proper adjustment and foot movement its close to a no kiddin' lever clutch..
Try a second gear wheelie by holding the lever between shifts and adding some throttle before releasing the lever..YeeeeHaaa!!
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Post by lauriejennifer on Feb 13, 2012 21:54:16 GMT -5
I was wondering how that worked! So, it's like "lazy shifting" on a fully manual bike, eh? If you don't click all the way through, the clutch is in no man's land...
Oh, this will make shifting much smoother, now that I know this.
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Post by 2strokd on Feb 14, 2012 9:05:36 GMT -5
Yep, first semi-auto i rode i was holding the shifter part way down, or all the way after putting it in gear to rev it up and or wheelie or do burnouts. Cut my semi-auto teeth at 11 years old on a "Big Red" Honda 250 three wheeler. Ahh, the good ole days lol  Watching the vid now LJ  |
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Post by 2strokd on Feb 14, 2012 9:09:39 GMT -5
Cool vid! Best way to get used to it. Try this. Go out and start it. Put it in gear, but when doing so hold the shifter down (or up, cant remember?). If the shifter is held (like holding the clutch), you should be able to rev it up even while in gear.?. If not, the clutch needs adjusted. No worries though, its pretty easy.
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Post by lauriejennifer on Feb 14, 2012 10:59:05 GMT -5
The old ATC's are badass! That's soooo cool you had one as a kid! Big thumbs up! If you can ride one of those deathmobiles, you can ride anything!
I'll try that as soon as I get a chance. Home with the flu today. Kinda lame.
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Post by lauriejennifer on Feb 24, 2012 23:11:18 GMT -5
So... I really need to find a better, more permanent solution for my shift lever... The short CRF lever *does* fit, but it's far shorter than what was designed for this bike. Shorter lever means less leverage available and more force needed. Result:  The camera doesn't do justice to that bruise. It's still a deep reddish purple. LOL I've taken to reaching down and shifting up with my hand. That can't be safe/ideal. |
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Post by 190mech on Feb 25, 2012 21:05:28 GMT -5
Ouch!I used to get those when I MX raced,ended up riveting an aluminum plate on top of my boot where the shifter rode!!
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Post by 2strokd on Feb 26, 2012 10:07:35 GMT -5
Yeah, those hurt! Time for a shifter extension....
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Post by vvtr on Feb 26, 2012 16:40:17 GMT -5
Result: The camera doesn't do justice to that bruise. It's still a deep reddish purple. LOL. Pfffft!!! that's not a bruise! THIS is a bruise!  thats after 2 days lol, after a week my whole side & thigh was every shade of purple you can imagine  that's after sliding along on my ass and hitting a pothole in the road with my hip, which then threw me up in the air, and i landed on my hand...  this is why i hate seeing people riding scoots without riding gear... i had full gear on and was still a mess. a mate recently came off at 130+ and while he was sliding down the road his gloves came off - you can imagine the mess. LJ, maybe you should get some proper riding boots with re-inforcement over the toes where the shifter meets your foot? my main boots are about 3yr old now nd the reinforcement is only now nearly worn through so it definately helps. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Feb 26, 2012 19:24:35 GMT -5
Just saw your latest vid on the BadBoy. "I wish this was a two-stroke." I can tell you've been hanging around here. ;D A big bore or engine swap would get you up those hills with ease, but I understand neither are cheap. Might consider just a smaller front sprocket unless the top speed or cruise RPM is a big concern. Front sprockets are usually a lot easier to swap on those and cheaper. It's been a long time since I've looked, but I'd think $20 should get a front sprocket. EDIT : www.scooterparts4less.com/web_gas/4Stroke_FrontSprocket.htm |
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Post by lauriejennifer on Feb 26, 2012 22:02:26 GMT -5
this is why i hate seeing people riding scoots without riding gear... i had full gear on and was still a mess. a mate recently came off at 130+ and while he was sliding down the road his gloves came off - you can imagine the mess. LJ, maybe you should get some proper riding boots with re-inforcement over the toes where the shifter meets your foot? my main boots are about 3yr old now nd the reinforcement is only now nearly worn through so it definately helps. These are the boots I'm wearing (stock photo):  or (again, "stock" photo from teh webz):  Depends on whether I'm riding for fun (first pair) or riding to work (second pair). I do occasionally ride in sneakers (confession), but I'm pretty ATGATT militant and the bruise has formed even with my race boots. It's just THAT stiff of a lever. LOL Here's how I generally shift into first from a stop, even with boots:  And here's me just being badass (  ):  As soon as summer gets here and the pavement warms up, I *will* drag knee on this thing. I'll just have to remove the bar-end mirrors first. LOL |
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Post by lauriejennifer on Feb 26, 2012 22:06:44 GMT -5
By the way, it seriously sucks about your crash. Crashing just sucks. Been there. Totaled my first motorcycle (moment of silence). I was wearing all the gear (totaling well over $1000 worth) and I still had a $12k+ hospital bill. And that was just one bill. And my shoulder will never be the same. Yeah, crashing sucks. Glad to see you're still on two wheels. Rubberside down, my friend. *hugs* |
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Post by lauriejennifer on Feb 26, 2012 22:18:13 GMT -5
Just saw your latest vid on the BadBoy. "I wish this was a two-stroke." I can tell you've been hanging around here. ;D A big bore or engine swap would get you up those hills with ease, but I understand neither are cheap. Might consider just a smaller front sprocket unless the top speed or cruise RPM is a big concern. Front sprockets are usually a lot easier to swap on those and cheaper. It's been a long time since I've looked, but I'd think $20 should get a front sprocket. EDIT : www.scooterparts4less.com/web_gas/4Stroke_FrontSprocket.htmYeah, you all have inspired the two stroke dream. And I keep seeing used KTM 50sx bikes on craigslist for around $500-$600. The KTM 2-strokes totally stomp all others in the 50cc motocross world, so... Since I work at a KTM dealership, the owners and coworkers all agree this would make my little BadBoy completely epic to put a Katoom motor in it. Just would need to find a machine shop to build me some custom motor mounts. Had to be totally plausible, considering all the crazy things you guys have done to your scoots around here. Money will hold me back for now, though. I intentionally got this scoot to *save* money and I need that to still be my priority for a season. The front sprocket would work, but this thing already struggles to 35 on a downhill. It's doing an indicated 45 at best, and I'm sure this thing is off by quite a bit. I know better than to trust the speedometer. Then again, if I'm struggling to reach top speed now anyway, the horsepower clearly isn't there for the present gearing. Ergo, I would probably not notice much loss in top speed on a gear change. It's like what I did with my KLX when it was bone stock. The first thing I did was go down 1 tooth on the front sprocket. Once it was bored et al, I put a 14t back on. I still keep a 13t around, though, because it's a quick swap to turn my bike into a complete wheelie monster. :riding: |
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Post by vvtr on Feb 27, 2012 2:23:45 GMT -5
i think the way to go with this is replace the stock shifter for one off a honda c50 / 70 / 90 cub. it has a back lever too, so instead of lifting the shifter up, you rock it back, theyre really comfortable to use too. and cheap lol.  |
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