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Post by stoop on May 17, 2010 19:14:54 GMT -5
ok, so i went with the roketa... i know i shoulda went with the honda, but the roketa ran 49 in the rain the first time i rode it... cant really ask for more lol... so i got it, everything worked, except ele start cause of the battery, thankfully, the apollos batterey was the same size (woot) so now everything works except one thing.... on the ride home, the speedometer stopped working.... i opened up the front and i couldnt see anything unpluged... other than that, the thing runs pretty good. the carb is a little dirty, and i was thinking of swapping carbs from the apollo, as they look the same... i also am in the process of pulling off the ignition coil and cdi box to replace them with the performance ones on my apollo... here are a few pictures... im unaware as to what some of the items in the picture are, cause they are not on the apollo... such as the vacum hose for the gas, on my apollo,, it was the line that went into the black piece going out of the carb, on the right side (looking from the back), but on this one, there are two lines on the black piece, and i think the vacum(or atleast the one that goes to the fuel tank) is on the left not the right, and the right side goes to some random thing above the fan cover that the apollo did not. any1 know how to fix a speedo that was working 45 mins ago? lol here are some pics:
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Post by stoop on May 17, 2010 19:19:00 GMT -5
the seventh picture is the piecfe i was talking about was not on the apollo. the flashlight is pointing to it. in the sixth picture, the flashlight is pointing to the big thick wire lookin thing...
again i didnt see it on the apollo.
and sorry about the old picture, im too lazy to take it off now too...
is it ok to swap out the carbs? if they are the same, as the apollo one i cleaned myself just looks aloooooooot better.
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Post by 90GTVert on May 17, 2010 19:45:08 GMT -5
Both engines should be the 139QMB (GY6 50cc). It looks like this scooter has emissions equipment and I guess your last one didn't. That's why you're finding parts you haven't seen before. Swapping carbs should be an easy task, because they are the same thing.
The speedometer consists of the gauge itself, a cable that connects the gauge to the sender, and a sender on the wheel hub. One of those things is going to be your problem. It seems most likely that the sender will be the culprit. They usually have tabs that stick out and allow the sender to rotate as the front wheel rotates. Sometimes those get bent out of shape and don't catch all the time. If that seems OK, make sure the sender will rotate the inner portion of the speedometer cable and that the cable moves on both ends. If it rotates on one end and not the other, it's broken.
You said it was going 49 on the first ride, but I notice the speedometer is in KPH. 49KPH is only about 30.5MPH.
Looks like a fairly well kept scoot. Congrats on the new ride. :scoot:
Oh, and I removed the old pic for you. ;D
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Post by stoop on May 17, 2010 20:08:08 GMT -5
Well thank you sir and duh on the speedometer. Wow I'm a retard. Yea I switched out the cdi box and ignition coil. It starts up first try and sounds pretty good. I'll be changing out the carb tomorrow as I have to work 11-7 tonight. But other than that it runs great. I haven't done a test drive with the new cdi and ignition et, but I guess I will on my way to work.
Also, you can't see it on the picture, bur halfway inbetween the white wire connector( seen at the top of most of the carb pics) and the cdi box is another wire connector thy is not connected. There is no other end to connect to any where near it. I'll post a picture before I go to work but Ima try and get some rest before then.
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Post by stoop on May 17, 2010 20:23:46 GMT -5
And as you stated, this and the apollos speedo are in kph and have moh under them. Is the odometer in miles or km?
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Post by 90GTVert on May 17, 2010 21:42:37 GMT -5
Unless otherwise stated (some odometers will actually say if they are km or mi) I would assume it is recorded in the most prominent of the numbers on the speedometer, so KPH would be my guess. That means less than 350 miles on the scoot if it's accurate. ;D
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Post by stoop on May 18, 2010 0:56:09 GMT -5
Ok I got the carba transfered, and I tried suckin all the gas out through the vacumm hose. I did it for like 15 mins for like what seemed like an 1/8 a tank. Any faster way to drain all this old gas out so I can out new gas in?
It starts right up first try, it just is seemig to die if I don't rev it. I've messed with the a/f mixture ( right now about 1 and. 1/2 to turns out from fully in) and the idle screw, but the only way to keep it from dieig is to max out the idle screw which makes the wheels spin decently fast on the kickstand.
As far as the speedomter, I opened up the head, and the cable is attached there, and I unclacrewed the bottom one ( by the front wheel) and it turned all the way around ( the little guage thing inside the wire) but nothing works still.
Any sugestions?
EDIT: the date of manufacture on it is 8/5/2007. Does that make it 07 or 08? I know cars come out with the new year a year before. It says mc-08-50 on the side, so I assume it's 08.
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Post by Goosey on May 18, 2010 7:59:37 GMT -5
Can't you disconnect the fuel line from the vaccum pump? Try opening the gas cap too to keep the air pressure from holding back the gas.
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Post by 90GTVert on May 18, 2010 11:31:12 GMT -5
If it's a tank mounted petcock you can unscrew it from the tank. Be ready for a lot of gas to come out fast though. You could unbolt the tank and dump it out.
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Post by stoop on May 18, 2010 14:27:05 GMT -5
Ok I just woke up and am aboutto start workin On the ped. I'm going to do a valve adjustment, change the oil, try and get the rest of this dirty gas out, check my spark plug, and try to tune the carb.
I at this point, before doing any of that, the scooter will start every time, just dies after 4 secs if I don't keep reving it. I don't know why. I've messed with the a/f and idle screw all night and it just kept not wanting to idle. But it runs good of I'm actually driving it. Still no speedo and I'm hoping I can figure that out today too.
Any inputs?
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Post by 90GTVert on May 18, 2010 14:52:28 GMT -5
Sounds like you're on the right track. See what happens after the maintenance stuff. Not sure what to tell you about the speedo. If the sender is turning the cable and the cable is turning on both ends, I'd guess there's a problem with the speedo itself.
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Post by stoop on May 18, 2010 15:23:06 GMT -5
.002 for both? That's what I'm going with as a start. If I need to change ot let me know.
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Post by stoop on May 18, 2010 15:37:45 GMT -5
And I got some sea foam. For my gas tank. Does it work well enough to just put it in dirty gas, or should I still get all the bad gas out first?
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Post by 90GTVert on May 18, 2010 15:54:03 GMT -5
I usually use either .003"/.003" or .003" intake / .004" exhaust. Other folks like .002"/.002" or .002"/.003". Any of those should work just fine.
Always get the bad gas out completely.
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Post by 2strokd on May 18, 2010 15:59:35 GMT -5
First off, didnt it run fine with the original carb? If so why not just put it back on for now? I always set mine at .004 on both. If i hear em tap a little i know their closing . When they get good and warm the gap will close just a tad anyway. I can help ya out more since you arent far from me it sounds ;D.
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