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Post by Sitticuss on Feb 6, 2014 20:22:20 GMT -5
I got my pipe from shakerdriver. All i needed to mount my motor on my wife's bike was a couple of 6003-2 bearings after I removed the old mounts. I have been looking for a scooter for over four months now. The only one I have come across was a 2006 Baccio with 7000 miles on it for 800. Which is to much in my opinion. Trying to find a project bike in my area is turning out to be not so easy. I really don't want to mount this on her scooter. Maybe if i can find a tire small enough to use with a twelve inch wheel. I'm still hearing about the wheels i bought that don't fit. I really need a project bike to work with. My idea with this build was to start as stock as possible and go through the whole process of upgrading one step at a time.
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Post by Sitticuss on Feb 7, 2014 20:01:37 GMT -5
I looked at the wiring from the stators of both my engines. None of the wires have the same color. but at least they have the same number of wires and the same connector. I've decided to put this motor in my wife's scooter. It's just sitting there mocking me. Attachments:
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Secret 90
Feb 7, 2014 20:35:29 GMT -5
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Post by nelson on Feb 7, 2014 20:35:29 GMT -5
What is the make and model of pipe? U are using stock cylinder no port work? What size carb? What do u expect you think u will get performance wise out of it? Sorry for so many questions. I have got me another case and I have some money saved for the build. But I think I am going to put a hold on it and buy a vento turbocam that is for sale locally.
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Post by Sitticuss on Feb 8, 2014 7:45:12 GMT -5
Not sure the make and model of the pipe. Will post a pic later. I'm just using a totally stock setup to start. I am be using a 19 mm carb with the standard intake to start. Eventually I would like to go with a lager intake and a 21mm carb. If i had to split the cases like you do i would definately install a crank with a longer stroke. Performance wise i am just looking to cruise in the 50 mph range. And expect to get there faster. With the length of the frame the weight of my scooter and the position of the center of gravity, My scooter will never be a wheelie machine. Love the look of the turbocam I would be tempted to pick it up myself.
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Post by 2TDave on Feb 8, 2014 7:53:45 GMT -5
My first scooter was a Vento Zip R3i "turbocam" I always get a laugh at that Tubocam. It did well with a Airasal 70 and 19mm Arreche. Good strong acceleration. Would of been a lot of fun with a 90cc. It's a fun, agile scoot. Wish I still had it for the wife.
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Post by Sitticuss on Feb 8, 2014 7:57:31 GMT -5
So i guess the easiest way to figure out how to properly wire my new motor in would be to pull off both the flywheels and look at the stators.Something which i have never down before. So if anyone can recommend a puller that would be great. Also here is a link to a seller i found on ebay that i buy belts from in the usa the cheapest i've found yet for a Bando belt. The shipping is free.....http://www.ebay.com/itm/221300265341?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Post by 90GTVert on Feb 8, 2014 8:32:39 GMT -5
Since they have the same amount of wires and same connector config, you should be able to just hook them up. For the 2 individuals the white/red should attach to what is usually blue/white on the scoot. White/red is pickup signal, black/red is power to CDI. Flywheel Puller For Jog
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Feb 8, 2014 13:18:59 GMT -5
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Post by nelson on Feb 8, 2014 13:18:59 GMT -5
I had a flywheel puller that I used to use on my yamaha blasters. Just so happened it fits the jog flywheel and probably most other flywheels out there. It has reverse fine threads so make sure there is do debris on there. Make sure u install it all the way and remove the washer. With an impact its a breeze just don't loose the woodruff key.
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Post by Sitticuss on Feb 8, 2014 19:43:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the help with the puller. Got my new speedo in today. My only complaint is a wiring diagram or a manual would have been nice. I guess i'm just old school and expect to much.
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Post by 90GTVert on Feb 8, 2014 20:15:35 GMT -5
That's meant to be a direct replacement part for a Vento Zip GT5 or Triton GT5 so just like any stock replacement part they don't usually come with instructions. Here's a diagram from a Triton R4i. They have an analog gauge cluster, but it may be of some use.
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Feb 8, 2014 20:28:32 GMT -5
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Post by 2TDave on Feb 8, 2014 20:28:32 GMT -5
Mine plugged right in. I can tell you the single black wire is for the tach. +coil.
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Post by Sitticuss on Feb 9, 2014 21:19:38 GMT -5
So i got my wife to leave the scooter home and take my jeep with her to work. I took the instrument cluster apart to install my new speedo. The first thing i discovered is that there is no central connector to disconnected and remove my old cluster.but on the bright side i can clearly see which wires go to what. I knew going into this project that I would be facing compatability issues. Not sure if i will get all the functions of my new unit to work properly. But all i want is the basic functions. Time to put that electronics degree to use. I told my wife it would be easy to install and it would be done by the time she got home. I might have lied...
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Post by Sitticuss on Feb 10, 2014 1:54:34 GMT -5
Got the plastics cut out and the speedo in place. Six more hours till the wife comes home
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Post by Sitticuss on Feb 10, 2014 4:21:44 GMT -5
I figured out how to wire everything except the fuel sensor. I'm really not sure exactly how the old one works. here is a pic.... I only have one blue/white wire left on the main connector and the two prong connector which i haven't figured out. Not sure if this new unit us made to run with a different sending unit it the tank....I guess its something i will just leave alone for now.
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Post by 90GTVert on Feb 10, 2014 11:38:30 GMT -5
If the new one has a large connector, you'll prob just need the blue/white wire from your scooter to connect to it. I think it's white/blue on the Triton. It will get power and ground for reference from the printed circuit I think. Hopefully both fuel gauges work on the same resistance range.
Great job mounting the new cluster. Looks like it belongs there.
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