messenger
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Location: Coventry, u.k.
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Post by messenger on Nov 13, 2021 17:17:52 GMT -5
How many miles do you think you have on the race cylinder? I think I put about 1400,1500 miles on my one before I sold the bike. Was still going strong. I actually removed it, and sold it. crikey im not too sure to be honest... I built the engine 10 years ago, and I didnt make a note of mileage, or can remember. ive fired it up a few times and it still sounds in rude health, and ive had a quick rip up and down the garden on it  im not even going to bother taking the cylinder apart for inspection, just run as is... if it fails.. I will just build another engine up. ive got enough bits and bobs lying around to build another stout engine. Ive actually got a spare unused mk1 racing cylinder and head in my stash box that Andy at Ped parts gave me some years ago, it has no piston kit though... but the piston kits and rings are still available.... or i might give a Mk2 Racing a try... or something totally different. im a bit of a spur of the moment guy... most of the time even I dont know what im gonna do next  |
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Post by aeroxbud on Nov 13, 2021 18:18:17 GMT -5
I was having a look the other day. Loads of choice for the Gilera/Piaggio engine still. It's nice to have options.
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messenger
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Location: Coventry, u.k.
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Post by messenger on Nov 13, 2021 19:11:44 GMT -5
I was having a look the other day. Loads of choice for the Gilera/Piaggio engine still. It's nice to have options. yes... the piaggio always has been and still is very well catered for. I was looking at speedfight 50/70 options the other night... was a bit dismal in comparison. |
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Post by aeroxbud on Nov 13, 2021 20:08:16 GMT -5
Yes I thought about getting a speedy 3, or 4, before the two strokes ended. Not a lot of options for them.
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messenger
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Location: Coventry, u.k.
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Post by messenger on Nov 14, 2021 5:43:36 GMT -5
Yes I thought about getting a speedy 3, or 4, before the two strokes ended. Not a lot of options for them. I quite like the speedfight 2, I think they look good, it was my first ever scooter, so i guess theres a sentimental connection there for me, and they are surprisingly nimble to ride. But when i got my Runner i fell in love with the piaggio motor, it really opened my eyes... streets ahead to tune compared to the Pug/Honda motor. its a shame theres no real way of mounting a piaggio motor in one, that would be ideal for me. There was a kit years ago you could buy through Scooter Attack to mount a Piaggio motor in a Speedfight, but you had to use a jack up kit and it put the motor and the rear shock at a bit of a crazy angle, I think its discontinued now any way. |
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messenger
Scoot Enthusiast
Posts: 188
Location: Coventry, u.k.
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Post by messenger on Nov 15, 2021 13:47:53 GMT -5
A bit more progress today on the Runner.. While the engine was out I wanted to use the opportunity to change the engine bushes, also known by Piaggio as the silent blocks. I used the old trick of a bolt and a nut and a few washers to press the bush into a large socket.  The pictures arent in the correct sequence but the bush removed from 1 side.  Two new bushes installed into the cases... and I can actually now reinstall the engine into the frame, and start bolting things onto the scooter for a change instead of taking things off. One Piggy lump ready to go back in the hole   Talking of holes whats down this one... its a Stage 6 HPC crank...  Putting The V Force Reed block back in...  A couple of my photos I took today somehow got corrupted, 1st time its ever happened to me. So I will have to fast forward to the end of the day.. Engines in, a few things bolted on, but best of all the bike is now a rolling chassis again which is going to make it a hell of a lot easier getting it in and out of my shed.  |
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Post by aeroxbud on Nov 15, 2021 18:34:35 GMT -5
Making good progress.
Silent blocks are so cheap. It's a great idea to change them.
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messenger
Scoot Enthusiast
Posts: 188
Location: Coventry, u.k.
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Post by messenger on Nov 16, 2021 16:50:27 GMT -5
only had a couple of hours after work on the Runner today, so didnt get a hell of a lot done. New pipe installed that runs from the main petrol tank to the header tank, and installed the header tank as well.  Also installed the pipes that run from the header tank to the carb (Fuel and Vac) and got the Airbox reinstalled too.  And then it was getting dark, and I had to put my tools away and the bike for the night. I also recieved an E-mail from M&P this evening that said my front tyre should be delivered tomorrow... finally! |
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Post by aeroxbud on Nov 16, 2021 18:36:13 GMT -5
That's a coincidence. I brought mine from M&P as well. Was the best price by quite a bit.
I wouldn't normally check them for tyres, but had just received an email from them.
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Post by 808ministroke on Nov 17, 2021 23:13:44 GMT -5
This afternoon I got home from work and M&P were good to their word, and my new tyre was waiting for me. And as im now a seasoned tyre fitter... i wasted no time and fitted it to the wheel  I'm extremely jealous of your tire fitting skills I usually just buy a whole new wheel! |
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messenger
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Location: Coventry, u.k.
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Post by messenger on Nov 18, 2021 12:33:13 GMT -5
This afternoon I got home from work and M&P were good to their word, and my new tyre was waiting for me. And as im now a seasoned tyre fitter... i wasted no time and fitted it to the wheel I'm extremely jealous of your tire fitting skills I usually just buy a whole new wheel! Up to now ive always shy'ed away from fitting scooter tyres, but in the past ive had trouble finding a tyre centre thats willing to fit them... A lot of the car type places say that they cant fit them, when in fact they can, and on the same equipment they use for car tyres... just lack of training i guess. Just goes to show what you can achieve if your willing to come out of your comfort zone. If I can do it anyone can... some big ass tyre levers and plenty of dish washing liquid is my advice... |
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messenger
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Location: Coventry, u.k.
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Post by messenger on Nov 18, 2021 17:36:54 GMT -5
So today this happened... I mean weve all done it at some point right   Its a good job ive got an understanding mrs |
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messenger
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Location: Coventry, u.k.
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Post by messenger on Nov 19, 2021 11:12:09 GMT -5
Today I gave my green rear wheel a couple of coats of clear coat lacquer and etch primed my front wheel.  Then i decided to take a look behind my stator for a couple of reasons really, (A) to see if being in storage for so long had any adverse effects regarding moisture/rust etc (B) to inspect the crank seal which is hidden away behind there to see if it showed any sign of leeking or perishing. A little look at my lightened fly wheel, which only has minimum surface rust showing (i was expecting a lot worse)  The electrics behind the flywheel all looked in good order...  And once i put everything back I checked for a spark at the plug, as i hadnt actually checked since i put the engine back in the frame... and again everything checked out ok... a good strong blue spark at the plug |
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messenger
Scoot Enthusiast
Posts: 188
Location: Coventry, u.k.
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Post by messenger on Nov 20, 2021 12:08:30 GMT -5
My stainless steel bolt set arrived today, its actually for a 125/180 Runner but 95% of the bolts are the same as a 50cc Runner...  And the resprayed rear green wheel with new tyre is now fitted to the scooter, along with my new Gas rear shock.  I will have to take the wheel off again as ive decided to paint my calipers red... The shabby looking transmission case will also be getting resprayed in due course. |
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im not even going to bother taking the cylinder apart for inspection, just run as is... if it fails.. I will just build another engine up. ive got enough bits and bobs lying around to build another stout engine.
