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Post by 2strokd on Oct 15, 2013 10:23:31 GMT -5
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Post by 70ccsuperyates on Oct 15, 2013 10:45:01 GMT -5
Sweet pic looks nasty sittin still
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Post by waltinhawaii on Oct 15, 2013 15:54:18 GMT -5
Awesome ride, John! Just for comparison, what were the times from the prior build that broke apart?
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Post by dennis5150 on Oct 15, 2013 18:42:02 GMT -5
Awesome !
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Post by kevin55950 on Oct 15, 2013 21:47:22 GMT -5
Awesome ! This proves that all the effort put in this project was worth. Results are impressive! I hope for you that it will go faster and faster  It's not because a scooter or an engine isn't build ''the normal way'' that it's not fast or that it will never run. IMO, you've made something very different that proves everything can be done if it's done properly. (there should be more ''frankenstein'' builds like this, my god they are nice ! ) |
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Post by 190mech on Oct 16, 2013 4:18:02 GMT -5
Thanks Guys!We have received some flak for thinking and building 'out of the box' lately...  |
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Post by oldgeek on Oct 16, 2013 5:23:18 GMT -5
Thanks Guys!We have received some flak for thinking and building 'out of the box' lately... That is what America used to be all about. Glad to see that mentality is still alive, and in this case awesome! The haters are obviously jealous.  |
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Post by 2strokd on Oct 16, 2013 9:31:41 GMT -5
Lol, one of the main reasons the scoot was shown (pics and vids) before TnG was to give time for such protest if anyone felt to deal such a low blow. It not set in stone, nor did i personally get any bad news.. But the subject was brought up and i get the feeling the weight is on the wrong persons shoulders?.. They are left in a tight spot. Lets keep in mind, this is nothing that is set in stone! Time will tell.? The build was built using previous, similar(seen overseas) frame tech. We used scooter wheels, front end, brakes, complete CVT, and CVT side from a stock 49cc scooter. In fact, the engine was a Yamaha 1983 dirtbike engine to start life, but it was nothing like this when finished and installed on the drag scooter. Many people have mentioned building such engines using MX tech. I got the feeling we just did it first. I know other gearheads would jump at the chance to build and run one of these givin the chance. Enough for its own class even  . John was genius coming up with what the big names are steering toward themselves. This being MX style technology. Using adapter plates to bolt on MX style cylinders with much more race oriented engineering. John was just ahead of the game, way ahead! That and we dont have pockets 1,000 of $,s deep. We used what we could get.. My hats always off to John for letting me have the honor to run this machine he built here in the USofA with his two god given hands! THAT, that friends is what real racing is all about! Sharing and improving to get the results wanted/needed.  |
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Post by 2strokd on Oct 16, 2013 9:37:32 GMT -5
Awesome ride, John! Just for comparison, what were the times from the prior build that broke apart? John built that one with China Minarelli scooter cases and they tore.. The cylinder was an MX 55mm bore. It ran low-mid 9,s but really shined in testing! I think the cases were tearing before the race day even started? If the cases were beefy enough this idea could work! Maybe even some 100cc Mina cases as they are a bit bigger.? |
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Post by moofus02 on Oct 16, 2013 9:47:14 GMT -5
I think it's great. The rules in racing are always up for creative interpretation lol. The ones that yell loudest aren't capable of a build like that. The others are scrambling to get one togather to be competitive lol great job congrats
Sent from my SPH-L720 using proboards
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Post by 70ccsuperyates on Oct 16, 2013 10:15:02 GMT -5
robet you should change your name to Jose
JOSE
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Post by moofus02 on Oct 16, 2013 10:57:40 GMT -5
I liked the mx build that ripped in half. Something like that with 100 yamaha aerox or bws cases might last a little better. All of that is outside the box but when you look at a mx Cylinder they make the scooter stuff look like crap
Sent from my SPH-L720 using proboards
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Post by dennis5150 on Oct 16, 2013 13:10:36 GMT -5
Awesome ! This proves that all the effort put in this project was worth. Results are impressive! I hope for you that it will go faster and faster It's not because a scooter or an engine isn't build ''the normal way'' that it's not fast or that it will never run. IMO, you've made something very different that proves everything can be done if it's done properly. (there should be more ''frankenstein'' builds like this, my god they are nice ! ) Anyone can do what someone else has already proven works, It take's people who think outside the box to do better ! I love it when someone tells me I can't do something, I always prove them wrong ! |
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Post by dennis5150 on Oct 16, 2013 13:14:51 GMT -5
Thanks Guys!We have received some flak for thinking and building 'out of the box' lately... I grew up being told what I couldn't do and what wouldn't work, thinking outside the box is what moves you ahead, try-fail , try-fail , try- fail , try -fail , TRY-SUCCEEDED ! screw the nay Sayers ! |
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Post by 90GTVert on Oct 16, 2013 13:35:52 GMT -5
There are still a couple of bad things about the 100cc Minarelli cases.
1)Deeper pockets required. AFAIK must be sourced overseas, higher shipping. I don't even know where to get them. Please correct me if I'm wrong, and provide affordable sources.
2)Will the rules allow it? If it's say an Aerox case with an Aerox stroker crank with an adapter plate to mount an MX cylinder kit... will the MX cylinder kit be against the rules? Where does the line get drawn? My Venus used a Polaris 90 ATV engine. It's a 90cc Minarelli, but if we have to use scooter engines, it would not technically be legal. When I looked for conrods for a 45mm mina stroker crank, the only thing I can find that matches up with the measurements is meant for an old bike. Is that legal? What John built was designed specifically to not only work with a true scooter CVT, but it bolts in where a minarelli would. It's my understanding that it could be removed and bolted into any scooter that could accept a long case minarelli with sufficient room for the carb/intake. If you wanna say that it isn't legal, than there needs to be a set of rules defining what is and is not legal IMO.
I do understand there must be a limit. I also get that NASRA is not a BIG sanctioning body that can afford to have a bunch of technicians and legal types sit down and write a 200 page rulebook and revise it yearly or as needed.
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