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Post by 2stroked on Mar 21, 2014 11:58:00 GMT -5
I don't think it is in the stars for me to have a scoot. I fixed the head gasket, started it, it ran a few seconds and died.
Theres is no spark, I have no idea why, nor do I have the tools or cash to figure it out andfix it. I might get it fixed one day, but for now its gonna be in storage till I get the money for tools and parts, and that may be a while, God I hate being poor! I'm not used to being broke, I am not able to work like I could before my wreck, and theres no jobs anyway. Oh well. Thank you all for all of your help in the past, I will be back sometime. But, not too soon.
Chris
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Post by moofus02 on Mar 21, 2014 12:04:39 GMT -5
It's probably something stupid like a broken wire or blown fuse. I know it sucks to be short on tools but I doubt it would take much more than a cheep multi meter and an inspection to get it going again. Man don't give up hope. If you need it I've got a beemer service manual I could email you
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Post by 90GTVert on Mar 21, 2014 13:12:49 GMT -5
Max tools to diagnose spark should be the basics that you must have if you can do a BBK and CVT work, multimeter (can get one for $10 to get by), and a flywheel puller ($20 or less).
Before spending anything I'd check every connection and make sure the air gap is alright at the reluctor. Something like a credit card's thickness will work, down to around 0.010".
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Post by 2stroked on Mar 21, 2014 14:20:52 GMT -5
My tools now consist if a basic craftsman metric socket set. I do not have a fly wheel puller or a multimeter, and did not need either for bbk or cvt tweaking.
I did find the problem; faulty spade terminals at the ignition pig-tails. Fixed.
Thanks for the tip about the credit card. I usualy use matchbook if I don't have feelers.
Thanx all.
Chris
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Post by nelson on Mar 21, 2014 16:43:33 GMT -5
think of all the effort (time and $) that people put in to get you the parts you need, you simply cannot just give up. All this talk about putting it in storage is unacceptable! Get it running good and reliable and do not mess with anymore other than maintenance. There is always hope and help that comes in the strangest forms, dont ever give up if it is something you really want. FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION
glad to hear you found the problem
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Post by 2stroked on Mar 21, 2014 17:22:24 GMT -5
think of all the effort (time and $) that people put in to get you the parts you need, you simply cannot just give up. All this talk about putting it in storage is unacceptable! Get it running good and reliable and do not mess with anymore other than maintenance. There is always hope and help that comes in the strangest forms, dont ever give up if it is something you really want. FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION glad to hear you found the problem If I had put it in storage, it would have only been there untill the first of April, when I collected rent. On that thought, I thought the stator was toasted, because it was dead to a test light everywhere, I did do what I could with what I had. I honestly thought that I was going to have to order another flywheel puller and a stator. Rest assured, this scoot gets babied,shown off and her story told almost on a daily basis.My oldest son is using the story for acollege acceptance assay this fall. To everyone who donated time, money, and parts: Thank you, you will be rembered and rewarded by karma and God. I try to help who I can when I can. However, what seems like a trivial amount of money to most, is not so trivial to the head of a house hold with four children. I will go naked and hungry before I let my children do without. My children are step children, but they all.claim to be biologicaly mine, as I claim them. The only thing I have that is just mine is the scoot, and for that reason, I don't get to spend much cash on her. I wish like hell I could spend moe, but its just not in the budget. But, no, FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION, HOWEVER, neither is spending any cash at the moment. I do cherish the scoot and all of the help that you all gave me. Chris |
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Post by 2TDave on Mar 21, 2014 17:39:48 GMT -5
Don't sweat it Chris. It's easy to get down when the weight of the world is on you. Your doing the right thing taking care of your family and your relationship with the big guy will pull you through. I've had to walk away for periods of time but a break is good when you can come back stronger and more focused. Glad you got it solved. Stay strong. Dave
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Post by tomcatsdb on Mar 21, 2014 20:21:53 GMT -5
I understand the short for cash thing. I don't have much in the way of specialty tools, but I do have a few larger sockets, multimeter, etc. If you're in the need of some basic stuffs, send me a PM and I'll see about getting some shipped your way.
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Post by nelson on Mar 21, 2014 21:32:39 GMT -5
I have four sons also so I understand. Dont worry and just do the best you can. If you need a stator I have one I will send you. I don't have a spare flywheel puller but I'm sure you could come up with one without spending any money. I have one I can ship and let you use but it would cost you money to send back. Let me know I will send u the stator. No worries man
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Post by moofus02 on Mar 21, 2014 21:50:43 GMT -5
I have four sons also so I understand. Dont worry and just do the best you can. If you need a stator I have one I will send you. I don't have a spare flywheel puller but I'm sure you could come up with one without spending any money. I have one I can ship and let you use but it would cost you money to send back. Let me know I will send u the stator. No worries man The Eton uses a dc stator. Odd ball stuff Sent from my SPH-L720 using proboards |
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Post by 2stroked on Mar 22, 2014 7:50:12 GMT -5
Thanks guys, but I got it. I thank you though.
Tomcatsdb, you keep them man, I should be okay. I got it going and if I do need anything later, I'll let ya' know.
A dc stator with ac ignition,, that does seem odd. It has to be ac ignition, it will run without a battery.
Thanks guys
Chris
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Post by moofus02 on Mar 22, 2014 7:58:07 GMT -5
They are dc unless someone rewired the bike. I've seen them run with no battery they make enough juice to power the cdi as long as there isn't a big draw from lights or a junk battery sucking up the power
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Post by thunderkat59 on Mar 22, 2014 9:46:03 GMT -5
They are dc unless someone rewired the bike. I've seen them run with no battery they make enough juice to power the cdi as long as there isn't a big draw from lights or a junk battery sucking up the power Sent from my SPH-L720 using proboards I have a Beamer III. Not sure what year it is. An '07 or 0'08 I think(?). Mine has a been a nitemare of electrical gremlins. Sometimes when I turn the key and energize the circuit, all lights come on. The very next start, no lights-- Nothing.I only kick it now, because there is never enough juice in the battery to turn it over with the electric starter. Sometimes there is just enough to let the turn indicators work, sometimes the relay just buzzez if Im under 4000 rpms. This long boring story is just to reinforce the posts saying Etons have crazy electrical stuff and that they will run with no battery at all. Im thinking of just taking the battery out and losing about 10lbs or so, Im so fed up with trying to diagnose this problem.  |
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Post by moofus02 on Mar 22, 2014 10:33:10 GMT -5
They are dc unless someone rewired the bike. I've seen them run with no battery they make enough juice to power the cdi as long as there isn't a big draw from lights or a junk battery sucking up the power Sent from my SPH-L720 using proboards I have a Beamer III. Not sure what year it is. An '07 or 0'08 I think(?). Mine has a been a nitemare of electrical gremlins. Sometimes when I turn the key and energize the circuit, all lights come on. The very next start, no lights-- Nothing.I only kick it now, because there is never enough juice in the battery to turn it over with the electric starter. Sometimes there is just enough to let the turn indicators work, sometimes the relay just buzzez if Im under 4000 rpms. This long boring story is just to reinforce the posts saying Etons have crazy electrical stuff and that they will run with no battery at all. Im thinking of just taking the battery out and losing about 10lbs or so, Im so fed up with trying to diagnose this problem. Mine is an 02 it will do weird stuff also. Won't crank with the kill in run switch to kill won't start but cranks slow go back to run and all is normal again. With a hot battery when you turn the key on the headlights should come on dim (running light) no matter where the switch is set. If you have switch set to high or low when it starts the lights should get bright. They have a weird headlight controller sounds like yours is acting up or has a wiring issue poor connection ground or bad wire Sent from my SPH-L720 using proboards |
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Post by 2stroked on Mar 22, 2014 12:04:04 GMT -5
Well, there hasn't been ANY juice in the battery for a while. I was told that a dc ignition won't fire without a good batt.,
but ac will. Thats why I thought it was an ac.
Both of my beamers have been full of electrical demons. As you know from reading this thread, the connections
are usualy the cause of the problems. I
sometimes have NO lights, and then on the same ride, they can all suddenly start to work. My signals do the same buzzing thing at times, or they'll blink super fast then stop and stay lit, same problem on the first one, changed relay, and bulbs, no differance. I geuss beamers are just built oddly, I still
LOVE this bike.
Thought about changing to true performance cdi at one time, but was confused as to what would work.
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