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Post by jhobe6678 on Oct 17, 2014 7:10:06 GMT -5
The more I keep reading on other peoples builds, I keep seeing higher gearing and great results with what I'm going to be doing. So I'm wondering, what gears do I buy? 2TDave told me what gears but which of these sets would you recommend? Will I need to buy new bearings too? Sorry for this post being more questions than results. I'm trying to build up as I go  |
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Post by 2TDave on Oct 17, 2014 8:02:01 GMT -5
I would wait for now but if you decide you need more top speed after everything else is done part #6713602.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Oct 17, 2014 10:46:57 GMT -5
I would wait for now but if you decide you need more top speed after everything else is done part #6713602. Oh sure, the most expensive ones  I'll keep this handy for when I'm ready. But yes I will want more top speed, more so an easier cruising speed. Thanks! |
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Post by 2TDave on Oct 17, 2014 13:26:27 GMT -5
Those are what I got but you can probably find some for less. Or find a used motor with the good 10.13:1 gears. I've paid between $65 and $100 for complete motors.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Oct 17, 2014 13:36:51 GMT -5
Those are what I got but you can probably find some for less. Or find a used motor with the good 10.13:1 gears. I've paid between $65 and $100 for complete motors. I'm ok with spending that, it's not too bad. When the time comes, I'll look around. I take it all these 40QMB's are universal as for the gears right? I just remove what's in there now and put those in, no fuss? |
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Post by 2TDave on Oct 17, 2014 14:45:58 GMT -5
I think the short case are different and I know the Yamaha won't work. I generally search parts for Vento Triton or CPI Oliver if a site gives you that option. You'll have to get the large primary pressed off and new one pressed on. A 20 ton home shop press won't do it. The guys at the machine shop measured first and didn't think they'd go but they did with their 40 ton.
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Post by 2TDave on Oct 17, 2014 14:56:44 GMT -5
Watch Brent's video on changing gears and know that he makes it look easy. My bearings never seem to go in as easy but he does an excellent job of guiding you.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Oct 17, 2014 17:31:36 GMT -5
I think the short case are different and I know the Yamaha won't work. I generally search parts for Vento Triton or CPI Oliver if a site gives you that option. You'll have to get the large primary pressed off and new one pressed on. A 20 ton home shop press won't do it. The guys at the machine shop measured first and didn't think they'd go but they did with their 40 ton. The only shop I knew of was the Nappa over on Colorado I believe. I had them press in a bearing for the front end of my KIA once. They charged me $30 or something to do it. So it's just the gears, not the shafts? |
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Post by jhobe6678 on Oct 17, 2014 17:35:22 GMT -5
Watch Brent's video on changing gears and know that he makes it look easy. My bearings never seem to go in as easy but he does an excellent job of guiding you. Yeah, there's a few things he's made look real easy. Like taking the clutch apart lol. I'm still going to tackle that one soon I believe, at least for the clutch springs. I'm thinking of ordering a 1k contra though just to have in case I feel froggy, but I won't probably put that on till the BBK and Pipe are on and tuned. Went to the doctors today. My back is pretty shot right now so even getting on the floor and doing minor stuff is out of the question. I also have to go to work tomorrow to babysit the servers because we're getting some electrical work done and they aren't sure if it's going to hit our server room or not. I'm hoping not so I don't have to make two trips down there. Just the fact that I have to go once is enough to take away from completely resting this weekend. But hey, doc gave me some steroids and some muscle relaxers that will knock me out. Yay... I  hate taking pills. |
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Post by jhobe6678 on Oct 18, 2014 13:37:16 GMT -5
The back is still healing and I'm trying to rest as much as possible. HAHAH! I had to go to work today to make sure the servers wouldn't die while the electricians were doing work. So I figured I'd stop at the autoparts store to get Oil for the 4t and gear oil for both. I forgot what gear oil to get so I got the motor oil and a few other things. Then my brain went "Don't you need some tools?" Why yes, I do. Off to Harbor Freight and Home Depot I go! I got the 1/2" Impact from HF along with a 3" cutoff that was on sale. A metric tap & die set and some other misc stuff. Someone please come make sure I don't leave the house anymore? Here's what I bought today.  Here's what has been coming in the mail. More should be arriving today, but the post office here sucks major @$$ and is never consistent with their time.  I think I'm done buying things for a little while. My wallet is crying. |
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Post by niz76 on Oct 18, 2014 14:06:58 GMT -5
Woohoo! Looks like you're getting stocked up pretty good j! You'll be so happy that you invested in the tools. It really does make things much more pleasurable having the correct tools. Shoot I just got a few 3/8" socket allen bits and just the silly stuff like that helps sooo much while tuning. Tremendous help if you do decide to make a lil $$ off this hobby of ours. My 11 yr. old daughter and I went garage saleing today on our scoots. It's nice to be able to spend a few bucks frivolously once in a while and I explaned to her that this is "scooter $$" haha. I got a $5 watch and among other things, she got one of those comically large TV remotes haha. We are making plans to buy another lil electric scoot like hers and pimp it out!
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Post by 2TDave on Oct 18, 2014 14:18:47 GMT -5
If I major in scooter parts my minor is tools. When I bought my first house that happened to be built in 1922 it was mitre saws, nail guns, saw horses and the like. Now it's all mechanical stuff, a good deal of the same stuff I owned and decided I didn't need anymore when I was in my early twenties and didn't care to turn a wrench anymore. So stock up Jhobe and keep it, you never know what the next hobby will be.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Oct 18, 2014 17:01:39 GMT -5
Woohoo! Looks like you're getting stocked up pretty good j! You'll be so happy that you invested in the tools. It really does make things much more pleasurable having the correct tools. Shoot I just got a few 3/8" socket allen bits and just the silly stuff like that helps sooo much while tuning. Tremendous help if you do decide to make a lil $$ off this hobby of ours. My 11 yr. old daughter and I went garage saleing today on our scoots. It's nice to be able to spend a few bucks frivolously once in a while and I explaned to her that this is "scooter $$" haha. I got a $5 watch and among other things, she got one of those comically large TV remotes haha. We are making plans to buy another lil electric scoot like hers and pimp it out! I'm already driving by garage sales looking for scooters... Good thing I don't carry cash on me often haha. But that may change with this lol. |
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Post by jhobe6678 on Oct 18, 2014 17:08:10 GMT -5
If I major in scooter parts my minor is tools. When I bought my first house that happened to be built in 1922 it was mitre saws, nail guns, saw horses and the like. Now it's all mechanical stuff, a good deal of the same stuff I owned and decided I didn't need anymore when I was in my early twenties and didn't care to turn a wrench anymore. So stock up Jhobe and keep it, you never know what the next hobby will be. My dad was a mechanic and a few of my cousins became DIY mechanics because of him. So I've always had tools handy for working on the car. Thanks to my dad, I've grown to do most of my own work on a car. Anything from oil changes to brakes, axles, changing alternators and radiators or doing a valve cover gasket. When it came to things like impact wrenches and most other power tools, I would just borrow or use my cousins at their garages. Now that we all live so far apart and most of them don't have a garage or the tools, I am slowly stocking my own back up. My laundry room is a mini garage, I have a whole shelf of nothing but tools. Hell, the one tool box I have is already over capacity. I thought about buying a nice stand up tool box on wheels and putting that in there, but there's no room. I have 2 tool boxes, one for my regular tools and a small one for my electrical/electronic and computer stuff. If I need to work on a car radio or something electrical, I have the small box for that. The big one stays in there unless I absolutely need to drag it out, that one weighs a friggin ton. Not to mention the bag of RIGID power tools, other misc saws, power drill, wrenches, bins of electronic parts and misc hardware. So when it comes to fixing a scooter or car, I'm becoming fairly equipped to do anything bumper to bumper. One day I will find out what the weight limit is on the floors here. haha |
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Post by jhobe6678 on Oct 20, 2014 16:14:51 GMT -5
More parts arrived. I got the 10mm wrist pin bearing from Scooter-ATV parts, thanks guys! You're quick and easy and quite reasonable. I also got the Technigas Next-R pipe in from ScooterTunning.ca! I want to put this thing on so bad right now, it's killing me!  I got a chance to inspect it better now. The pipe looks nice and has a finish to it, like some kind of clear coat? That's up to the muffler part, that has its own finish. I did notice a couple of scratches on the muffler part though and some sort of wire sticking out of it. The wire came off, I think it's part of the stuffing. Anyways, no biggie really. They got it to me quick and they were super nice with letting me know the status. I can't wait to get it on and hear it now. So in all I'm ready to rebuild the entire top end AND exhaust of this bike. Now to wait for my back to heal some more and for this upcoming weather we have to pass. |
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